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Offline NUKE

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« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2004, 09:59:13 AM »
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150 children and then another few hundred thousand innocents in retaliation. That makes sense. Heaven is going to have a bumper a year with you heroes in charge!


My  point was  that the cartoonist's logic blaming Putin for the terrorists , as though the terrorist actions were justified somehow, was beyond nutz.

If the situation were that the Russians retaliated against inocent Arabs by nuking them, then by the same logic a Russian cartoonist and news network could justifiy making a cartoon blaming the Arab leaders for the nukes. Same logic. Blame the victim.

That's all I was trying to point out. I wasn't literally saying we the Russian should nuke the Arabs.
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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2004, 10:04:59 AM »
Maybe you didn't Nuke, but a few others seemed to be getting a hard-on for the idea. It was them that my comments were aimed at.
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« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2004, 10:09:21 AM »
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My  point was  that the cartoonist's logic blaming Putin for the terrorists , as though the terrorist actions were justified somehow, was beyond nutz.


Is he blaming him, or is he mocking him?
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« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2004, 10:17:05 AM »
al-jaz incites additional voilence

as i have stated before -  it should be removed from the air waves - permanently

we shut down the one nutbags "newspaper" ,  no need to stop there..
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« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2004, 11:09:40 AM »
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we shut down the one nutbags "newspaper" ,  no need to stop there..


Sure there is.  Al Jazeera was founded by Emir of and and is based out of Qatar.  Qatar, our ally in the war on terror.
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« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2004, 11:12:56 AM »
Dang gov't computer...can't acces al jezera..hell I can't even access Pravda from here...Great article in there about the belsan incident and Russia's feelings towards the terrorist. I agree with the writed completely:aok
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« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2004, 11:34:06 AM »
Flame bait
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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2004, 11:50:25 AM »
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You are really in need of some Fox News to balance out too much Al-Jazeera.
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« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2004, 07:50:11 PM »
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You are quite correct, no one DID join the 'coalition of idiots'........several nations did however join the US to make up the 'coalition of the willing' and aid them in their  (and everybody elses) fight against terrorists and the nations/governments who harbour them.


All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.
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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2004, 08:13:51 PM »
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150 children and then another few hundred thousand innocents in retaliation. That makes sense. Heaven is going to have a bumper a year with you heroes in charge!


How many children died during the "blitz".  How many died in Dresden?

If a nuke or a bio goes off in London what then,  kiss and make up?  I bet the answer won't be very PC.
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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2004, 09:10:27 PM »
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My  point was  that the cartoonist's logic blaming Putin for the terrorists , as though the terrorist actions were justified somehow, was beyond nutz.

If the situation were that the Russians retaliated against inocent Arabs by nuking them, then by the same logic a Russian cartoonist and news network could justifiy making a cartoon blaming the Arab leaders for the nukes. Same logic. Blame the victim.

That's all I was trying to point out. I wasn't literally saying we the Russian should nuke the Arabs.


Spot on.  If al jazeera was the voice of all reason it would be putins fault for the deaths and not the terrorists that kept them hostage.
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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2004, 09:33:40 PM »
thats it i have made up my mind, i am going to learn how to hack... then ill show thoe SOBs what i think of them.

friggin oil potatos, is it wasnt for that stincky fluid they where driving camels and donkeys today. i wish they will dry out. then wewill see how much the rest of the world cares about those bloody wrag heads dress wearing camel fuggin illiterate daughter raping fanaticals.

who the hell they think they are. :mad:
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« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2004, 09:35:58 PM »
Dowding, come down off your highly-evolved holier-than-thou crumpet-munching pedestal for a bit. The person I presume your UID refers to used what 'could' be described as mass murder of women and children in their beds, they too were innocent in that their only crime was being in the wrong country duing a war. But killing a few million civilians in a short period of time did a great deal to bring the agressive country to its knees.

After the Greeks and the Romans, the Spanish defeated the Moors, I guess those kind of defeats only last a few hundred years or so.
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« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2004, 03:41:09 AM »
Edbert MOL - That's a pretty emphatic display of ignorance. You'll find that Dowding was the Commander in Chief of Fighter Command during the Battle of Britain. You're thinking of Harris.

Krusher - we're talking about the school massacre, not a tactical nuke outside Buckingham Palace. That would change the situation.

As for Dresden etc. I'd say there is no valid comparison between today's situation and WW2. The enemy is non-localised and we aren't going toe to toe with a force that was on the brink of invading, occupying and destroying our country.
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« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2004, 03:53:02 AM »
As long as Putin won't allow investigations done by organisation which isn't bound to his government or army I wouldn'd draw too much conclusions what happened there; Russian government has always been a bit uncaring if there's civil victims or not.
Personally I wouldn't be surprised if the massacre was intentionally launched.
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