Author Topic: It Explains Why We’Re Going To War, AND WHY WE’LL KEEP GOING TO WAR.  (Read 1058 times)

Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2004, 11:22:40 AM »
Holy cow! What exactly IS the topic?

Offline Charon

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2004, 11:31:21 AM »
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I don't believe the invasion of Iraq was ever a subject for "debate".


I agree. It was a foregone conclusion, apparently starting on 9/12. The cowardly Democrats certainly didn't stand in the way at the time. The "liberal" corporate media was too worried about their embeds and playing the beltway media game (softball questions = access to high level interviews) to pay much attention, Helen Thomas excluded (which is why she was excluded from the last pre war press conference). Too bad.

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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2004, 11:37:38 AM »


So, we're forming an empire now?
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2004, 11:38:36 AM »
Off topic? Not sure how, but let me re-phrase it.

The whole premise that 70's levels of terrorist violence are desirable is flawed.

It depends entirely on location.

My first post was essentially making that point, although admittedly the rest was off-topic through AKIron.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2004, 11:45:31 AM »
Off topic
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2004, 12:15:15 PM »
Actually, if you hear folks like Slick Willy Clinton speak, the Republican and Democratic doctrines aren't too far apart.  The major difference is in how they interpret "exporting security".  The Neocon approach has that as being "ruling with an iron fist", whereas the Clintonian Democratic school is "establishing partnerships with other nations." In either case, we're talking about areas with massive poverty and unemployment, and the argument, "To make these areas secure, we need to connect them to the global market economy" is basically a justification of American Imperialism.

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2004, 12:21:06 PM »
Terrorism like in the 70's ?

Rote Armee Fraktion,IRA, Action Directe, Brigada Rosso,PLO to name a few ...

Doesn't sound like my version of heaven on Earth.

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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2004, 12:34:50 PM »
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He spoke about pushing the terrorist back to levels seen in the 70's, that is their reach is only to southern Europe , not that that is good but it illustrates that the war is working and has been successful thus far, and will continue to be.


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prior to BUSH they could reach, wait where was it O yes  
NEW YORK.

You all don't read or comprehend well.

70's as in their reach. That’s what I stated in the first post.
In the 70's they only could reach ME and southern Europe, Ah but what do we see now, That’s right ME and Southern Europe. And in a few years it will be ME and then Sub Sahara Africa and then nothing but a few isolated attacks at best. Barnett states about 20 years. This from his CSPAN on 6/2/04 appearance.
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2004, 02:23:37 PM »
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They hijacked a lot of planes back in the '70s. They could reach New York back then too. Still can.


Is's kinda like nowadays when they hijack lots of threads.... and today they reach all the way to grapevine!  :rofl
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2004, 02:33:34 PM »
"In the 70's they only could reach ME and southern Europe, Ah but what do we see now, That’s right ME and Southern Europe..."


That's cause they're using bigger, synthetic rubber slingshots nowadays.

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« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2004, 02:47:49 PM »
Why does the map list Northern Ireland as a US peacekeeping military operation?

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« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2004, 03:18:05 PM »
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Why does the map list Northern Ireland as a US peacekeeping military operation?


Not military but Bill Clinton and the US played no small part in helping bring about the current situation. Even GWB has kept an interest. It is one example of a positive US intervention.
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« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2004, 04:20:00 PM »
Pushing terrorism back to the state of the 70's would be a very good thing.
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« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2004, 04:22:13 PM »
Its pretty much a rehashing of Samual Huntington's thesis on the "clash of civilizations" being the future of conflict.


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