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« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2004, 09:54:09 AM »
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banana how about this question..

Will it be worth any US lives to oppose a Chinese invasion of Taiwan?


No, not even one.

Now, if we're talking about if China tries to invade and capture Japan or the Philipines......Yes, absolutely. The gloves would need to come off.

The problem with Taiwan, is that China still thinks it is still a part of China, and not a sovereign nation. I don't know all the history involved, but from what little I have read about Taiwan, it wouldn't be worth going to war with China over Taiwan.

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« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2004, 09:56:55 AM »
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I think you misunderstood SirLoin.


Consistent though! :D

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« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2004, 09:57:27 AM »
banana, one word: ENTROPY. War is just the manifestation of mankind's resistance to that phenominum (sp?).

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« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2004, 09:59:25 AM »
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I think about how what appears to be a no-brainer decision today...may not seem to absolutely correct twenty years from now.


LOL!

That's life, amigo. Everybody,everyday, everywhere makes no-brainer decisions today that may not seem to absolutely correct twenty years from now.

We call that "life", I think.
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« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2004, 10:00:45 AM »
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banana, one word: ENTROPY. War is just the manifestation of mankind's resistance to that phenominum (sp?).


Slimm, you mean entropy as in chaos, disorganization or randomness? I had to look that word up at Merriam-Webster.

Please explain.

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« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2004, 10:03:22 AM »
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That does not mean one cannot have an intelligent discussion on what people think will happen.  


Go ahead and indulge in your discussion of pure guesswork.

Try not to be too pretentious about the baseless pronouncements though.

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« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2004, 10:03:49 AM »
Interesting topic.  I would like to add a few more wars to the discussion.

Ahghanistan.  Spanish/American.  Mexican/American.  Civil War.  

And for the British:  The Falklands.

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« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2004, 10:04:07 AM »
Yes

I'd say in less than 10 years most will be saying it was
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« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2004, 10:06:16 AM »
Instead of thinking 20 years from now..Why not try and learn from the past?

War is a last resort..Pre-emptive invasion?...Europe is still suffering from that lame excuse to go to war(twice over too)..
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« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2004, 10:06:37 AM »
I'll get back to you in 20 years. This email should still be good.


But seriously, as has been pointed out, the results of our efforts in Iraq won't be known for years to come.

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« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2004, 10:12:13 AM »
I would say that civilization and judiciary is a response to entropy. War is a symptom of a failure of that response, not a response itself.
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« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2004, 10:14:58 AM »
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Slimm, you mean entropy as in chaos, disorganization or randomness? I had to look that word up at Merriam-Webster.

Please explain.

From Batleby.com: def #5: "Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society."

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« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2004, 10:41:07 AM »
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The problem with Taiwan, is that China still thinks it is still a part of China, and not a sovereign nation. I don't know all the history involved, but from what little I have read about Taiwan, it wouldn't be worth going to war with China over Taiwan.


And Iraq claimed that Kuwait was only a province of Iraq..

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« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2004, 10:41:22 AM »
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Exactly. So, our job is NOT finished in Iraq.  It must be eliminated from the face of the planet.


Pretty sure you didn't mean what you said here. Careful with those pesky pronouns.

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« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2004, 10:46:09 AM »
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Pretty sure you didn't mean what you said here. Careful with those pesky pronouns.


Whoops! :rofl   I meant "Terrorism" must be eliminated. But feel free to disregard the common sense approach to eliminating it! ;)