Kerry Wins in Lanslide. (If the World could vote)

[Bluedog]

The Taliban, the recognised soverign government of Afghanistan at the time of the Coalitions invasion.

Go find yourself some rabid anti-US guy to unload your intellectual handicap on, and leave these reasonable discussions to the adults , theres a good little fellow.

Someone asks "Why do you even care?"
I say "Because it isnt just the US that is affected by the results of the US presidential election"

I get jumped on, called a fool, have half arsed attempts at belittling my country thrown my way....., don't wanna hear the answer, don't ask the question.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Bluedog
The Taliban, the recognised soverign government of Afghanistan at the time of the Coalitions invasion.

Go find yourself some rabid anti-US guy to unload your intellectual handicap on, and leave these reasonable discussions to the adults , theres a good little fellow.

I don't get it.

[AKIron]

Maybe we really should let China pick our president. You know, like we did 8 years ago.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Bluedog
Perhaps that lack of interest in other people's countries and lives is part of the reason others do care so much who runs the show over there.

Thanks for making ZERO sense.

[Bluedog]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Its none of the worlds gdamn business who we elect into office.


You are a fool for thinking any of the people we bombed  or declared war on were of a "Soveriegn government".


You are even more of a fool for posting that here.

 

Just defending myself NUKE

[Bluedog]

Originally posted by NUKE
Thanks for making ZERO sense.

OK, I'll say this real slow for you.

The American president has the ability, and has shown the will to excersise the ability, to influence the lives of people not on the US electoral role, perhaps if the day to day lives and concerns of the peoples living in countries outside the US was a major consideration in US foriegn policy, people would be quite confident that their safety and future were in good hands, and not give a damn about who the guy making the gameplay calls was.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans seem to care not one little bit about how the actions of the US Govt may or may not affect people outside of the US, so, those outside people have an interest in just who it is that is in control of the US. Because it just may be their own life, or the lives of their friends and family that is influenced.

Now, nowhere have I said that we non-aAmericans have any right to influence the US presidential elections, we dont.
Nowhere have I made any derrogatory remarks about the US.
nowhere have I said anything that is offensive to the US.

Why am I a "fool" for posting this here, or believing that the government of Afghanistan at the time of the Coalitions invasion was the legally recognised government of that country?
Apart of course from the fact that some Americans may disagree with me.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Bluedog
Perhaps that lack of interest in other people's countries and lives is part of the reason others do care so much who runs the show over there.

Bluedog, take a step back....I'm not calling you a fool, just pointing out that this statement makes no sense at all.

[Bluedog]

Wasnt directed at you NUKE, it was Morpheus that called me a fool.

In my opinion, the reason people from other places are interested in American politics, is because American politics influence our lives, not just the people inside America's borders.

The fact that the average American doesn't seem to care about how US foriegn policy affects others, and yet the US is a major player in world affairs makes some people believe that perhaps descisions are being made without any regard whatsoever toward their best interests.
Perhaps that is a part of the reason people are interested.
Thats all I meant.

If we all knew that no descision would be made in American parliament. or senate, or congress or whatever you call it, without due consideration being given to how US policy might affect other people, no one would give a hoot who was boss over there, as everyone would be confident that it was being taken care of in the best possible way.

[NUKE]

Unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans seem to care not one little bit about how the actions of the US Govt may or may not affect people outside of the US, so

So, you Australians vote based on what actions affect the world rather than Australia? You vote for what's best for your country, just like we do.

Too bad that the US is a superpower I guess. Just be thankfull that China  or N. Korea does not have the power we have, then you'd really be crying.

Be thankful that a country like the US has the power. Name another nation you would rather have in the USA's place in your dream world.

[NUKE]

Bluedog, how has the US adversly affected you?

Seems to me you are lucky the US has the power and not some other nation.

[Bluedog]

I would rather have nobody other than the US as a superpower.

US policy has affected me in no way whatsoever that is worth bringing up.
Apart from several family freinds, and my cousin being on active duty right now in Iraq, something which probably would not have happened had it not been for descisions made by the US govt without any imput from me.

I have no problem with that BTW, it is merely an example of how US policy may affect people who have no say in what that policy is.


Im NOT bashing the US, I'm just pointing out WHY some people who do not live in the US may have an interest in US politics.

I apologise if my intentions were not clear.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Bluedog
Wasnt directed at you NUKE, it was Morpheus that called me a fool.

If we all knew that no descision would be made in American parliament. or senate, or congress or whatever you call it, without due consideration being given to how US policy might affect other people, no one would give a hoot who was boss over there, as everyone would be confident that it was being taken care of in the best possible way.

I dont get it. Are you saying that the US doesn't consider how it's actions affect other people?

[Bluedog]

No more or less so than the government of my own country, as you pointed out.

[Bluedog]

If descisions made by John Howard directly or indirectly effected your life, or the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans, would you not be interested in what descisions the man made, even though as an American, Australian politics is 'none of your business'? Say for instance, going to war.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Bluedog
If descisions made by John Howard directly or indirectly effected your life, or the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans, would you not be interested in what descisions the man made, even though as an American, Australian politics is 'none of your business'? Say for instance, going to war.

Your Government is responsible for sending your people to war, not the US. You voted that government into office.