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Offline eagl

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« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2004, 11:23:34 PM »
JAB,

Have you ever driven the police mustang or LT1 caprice to compare them?  Both my dad and brother were/are CHP officers and have driven both, and your comment that the mustang had no performance advantage is completely incorrect.

My dad was one of the few officers in his office considered a "pursuit driver" and so he was always assigned to a mustang.  He drove the mustang every year that the CHP used them, and he could do some amazing things in that car.  When he had to drive even the LT1 caprice, it was a huge step backwards in performance and he couldn't wait until his mustang was back in service.

The mustang had it's limitations (NEVER offroad one as the rear axle mounts could rip out of the floorpan!) but as a pursuit car it was nearly perfect.  The only pursuit cars that match it nowadays are either the police camaros or some of the non-standard (ie. expensive) highly modded sedans used by some western states.

My dad remembers the mustang very fondly...  It would do 140 uphill, downhill, and as long as you didn't wind up the springs in a skid and then release them resulting in flipping the car, it wouldn't bite you in the butt.  But he was a rather above-average pursuit driver so he never got a scratch in a pursuit even though on occasion if the perp wrecked, my dad would be close enough that the splattering radiator fluid from the crash would land on his hood :)

My brother got a lot of seat time in the LT1 caprice since he was assigned one as a resident post officer, but he said it still drove like a caprice.  Sure it could accelerate faster than most sedans, but it could never be confused or really compared with almost any real sports car including the 5.0 and 4.6 mustangs.  It's just too heavy and doesn't handle as well.  It made a great cop car, but it's plain silly to try to say it was as good of a pursuit car as the mustangs were.  I went on ridealongs in both and I've done some amature track racing of my own, and I've seen the difference between the cars myself.
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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2004, 11:40:18 PM »
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Originally posted by BlckMgk
Just wondering what kind of work do they do on the average police cruiser. I.e. Super Charger?

Was wondering this cause I'm about to rob a bank and want to know what I need to get away from in the city, other than the helicopters (I've got a sholder SAM)

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« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2004, 11:51:13 PM »
The state troopers used to drive Mustangs and Camaros here in Oregon, but ended up just going with the Camaros.  The mustangs were a tad bit quicker, but were not nearly as good in wet weather.

I'm seeing a trend in the cities that involves minimizing high-speed pursuits in favor of helecopter tracking and surrounding with barricades/spikes.  I'd heard rumors that alot of the newer tactics made the "rear wheel drive" requirement a little less important.  Just yesterday, I saw two of the more rural police cruisers were actually the front wheel drive impalas.  I haven't seen them in Portland yet, but I don't think that will be long.  Municipalities simply do not like having only one choice for police vehicles.

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« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2004, 12:24:50 AM »
"Municipalities simply do not like having only one choice for police vehicles."

Half the reason they're buying the Impalas is because the CV has a reputation for being a bomb on wheels.  



"Have you ever driven the police mustang or LT1 caprice to compare them? "

I've driven the Caprice head to head against the 5.0 'stang.  The 'stang displayed no advantage.  Neither car was terribly new at the time, but the Mustang was older.  

The thing with the 'stang was it was more likely to be customized and improved than most other vehicles.  I have little doubt that there are some really fine performing pursuit Mustangs out there.  In general I am of the opinion that they just aren't worth it.  There are so few pursuits around here that having a dedicated pusuit vehicle is a waste of money, especially in the case of the Mustangs I've seen.   A local PD near here actually has a Porche outfitted as a pursuit car, but it sees little use outside parades just because of its inherent impracticality.  

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« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2004, 08:36:54 AM »
yep... the mustangs are evil in wet weather.  short wheelbase, solid axle... high hp to weight and light rears...  you can power drift one in the rain on a corner at allmost any speed.

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« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2004, 07:33:40 PM »
I won't tell you how long ago this was.... But the last cruiser I drove was a stock Ford Fairmont with a 2.3 liter straight four! LOL
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« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2004, 11:00:41 PM »
Not to mention the Mustang weighing less.

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« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2004, 02:43:43 AM »
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Originally posted by SunTracker
If you rob a bank, you need  a plane that can cruise at least 200mph.

You would rob the bank, drive to a road where the plane and a pilot would be waiting (with engine running).  Jump in the plane, fly under radar for several hundred miles, and then land in some farm field.
That farm field would be flashing on the police map by the time you got there. ;)

J_A_B - interesting list of police car mods. Our SAS guys make a further 2 mods on their cars in case they have to ram their way out of trouble: 1) airbags disabled; 2) Impact induced fuel cut off disabled. Modern cars have a safety feature that cuts the fuel in the event of an impact. The SAS don't like that.

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« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2004, 03:23:13 AM »