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Offline Ripsnort

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« on: September 10, 2004, 01:58:36 PM »
Great commentary piece by Diane West about the Islamic terrorism situation. Nails it on the head. Some excerpts:

" Alas, there are no 'terms' to come to. Literally. We are experiencing a civilization-wide failure, even three years after September 11, to define the terrorism born of Islam's core medieval precepts: violent jihad and dehumanizing dhimmitude. We see the same kind of terrorism in Russia that we see in Israel, Sudan and Iraq. We've seen it in Spain and we've seen it in Bali, and we've certainly seen it in the United States. We see it, but maybe we don't believe it -- a failure that could ultimately be our undoing.

...The war we wage, the United States and its coalition of friends, is not a war on generic 'terrorism,' but on Islamic jihad -- the spread of Islam by violent means. We wage it not against generic 'terrorists,' but against Islamic jihadists who dream of death and destruction, not to mention a caliphate, in their religion's name.

In our religion's name -- the postmodern 'religion' of tolerance the pluralistic West publicly enforces and enshrines -- we torture ourselves over whether jihadists are just a minuscule minority of 'extremists.' We nudge along a lagging conviction that terrorists who maim and kill in the name of Allah constitute some far-out sect that will some day be denounced, ostracized and neutralized by a robust Muslim mainstream. ...But we must also wonder how fringy the Islamic 'death cult' can be given the doctrinal primacy of jihad and dhimmitude in the Muslim world.

Writing in the pan-Arabic newspaper Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, the general manager of Al-Arabiya News Channel offers a genuinely fringe view: 'It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims,' Abdel Rahman Al-Rashed writes. 'We cannot clear our names unless we own up to the shameful fact that terrorism has become an Islamic enterprise -- an almost exclusive monopoly, implemented by Muslim men and women.' Mr. Al-Rashed doesn't explain the basis of this 'monopoly' -- which includes the central precepts of jihad and dhimmitude -- and he glosses over Islam's bloody centuries of conquest and subjugation. But he does call for 'an end to a history of denial,' which is a promising start. 'Self-cure starts with self-realization and confession,' he writes. 'We should then run after our terrorist sons, the sour grapes of a deformed culture.'"

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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2004, 02:03:42 PM »
Michelle Malkin shacked one too in her op/ed today:

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"It wasn't no-name militants or wayward guerrillas who have butchered, beheaded and slaughtered thousands of innocents over the last three years alone. Anniversary reality check:


In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Russia stabbed babies to death, shot toddlers in the back, forced children to eat rose petals and drink their own urine, raped teenage girls, executed their teachers and blew themselves up in a crowded school gymnasium. Death toll: 338.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Spain detonated bombs on four commuter trains during Madrid's rush hour. Death toll: 190.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Bali blew up a beach resort with an electronically triggered bomb at one bar and a car bomb hidden in a van at another nightclub filled with young Western tourists on holiday. Death toll: 202.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Pakistan kidnapped and beheaded American journalist Daniel Pearl.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Saudi Arabia kidnapped and beheaded American engineer Paul Johnson.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Iraq kidnapped and beheaded American independent contractor Nick Berg.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Iraq kidnapped and executed Italian security guard Fabrizio Quattrocchi.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in the Philippines kidnapped and killed American missionary Martin Burnham.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Israel engineered near-simultaneous suicide attacks on two buses, killing at least 15 people.
In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Morocco waged suicide bombing attacks in Casablanca.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Turkey bombed synagogues and the British consulate.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in America hijacked and incinerated three planes full of men, women and children, trapped pregnant women and firefighters in smoke-filled stairways, and forced office workers to leap 99 stories to their deaths after saying final prayers from the ledges of the World Trade Center on a peaceful September morning. Death toll: 3,000."

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2004, 02:13:44 PM »
They (what we call terrorists) are just misunderstood victims of our foreign policy blunders, they are the result of poverty and lack of healthcare, or they are 'freedom-fighters' and 'rebels' strugling for their independence.


...right?

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2004, 04:55:56 PM »
That all sounds like possible racial profiling and that is not acceptable in this country of open borders...Give us your tired your poor...you huddled masses yurning to be free...your bomb strapping muslims that we dont understand....The ones that we have wronged..that we have mistreated...Bring us all your misunderstood terrorists so that we can open talks with them. We need to learn to just get along...change our way of life to suit there needs. To put our women back in the dark ages of being quiet..or be killed.....

Lets just invite them all to a big ole meeting at the UN or the White House. Bring them to the site of the WTC and show them what an accomplishment they made. How they really changed America and how set talks in place to completeley change our way of living.

I'm a Christian ....but I've flat had it with the whole thing.

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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2004, 04:59:59 PM »
What's the difference between this chick's opinion and the stuff we spew out here on a daily basis?

(besides the fact that's it's published in the moonie paper).

Why am I reading this? I can go get opinions from wherever I want. Are you like the digital-age version of the newspaper delivery boy?

btw.... it's copyrighted, and you're breaking the law. Just sayin'.

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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2004, 05:29:22 PM »
Hmmm, using a National Defense Contractor's computer to break copyright laws. Is that a federal crime? ;)

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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2004, 05:37:00 PM »
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Hmmm, using a National Defense Contractor's computer to break copyright laws. Is that a federal crime? ;)

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:confused: Since when is my computer a national defense contractors computer? (Or did you not know I don't work on Fridays?)

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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2004, 05:38:11 PM »
You post from home? I'm shocked! You got Friday's off?
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2004, 05:38:30 PM »
No comment on the editorials?

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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2004, 05:40:35 PM »
Nope. I was watching NBC News show 100's of military documents from the 70's with tiny "th"s.
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