New Area - Simulation Mode

[VWE]

Come to the CT... people atually you after a good 1 on 1. I came to the CT to get away from the gamers.

[slimm50]

Originally posted by VWE
Because I don't usually fly more than an hour a night and I just came back here last month. If you will note my primary time is in the CT and this month I bet I have no more than an hour or two in the MA. So when I sain 4 deaths a night I was right... its easy to flame just about anyone if you don't take the time to look at all the stats. This is a discussion about making a more realistic areana and giving someone 4 lives an hour is no different than what we have now.

Heck, when I was flying I could easily die 4 or more times an hour, and I anticipate when I come back it won't change much for the better. like I say, don't underneath me when I'm dogfightin cause I'l prolly fall on ya, or pieces of me will.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by VWE
Come to the CT... people atually you after a good 1 on 1. I came to the CT to get away from the gamers.

I've tried the CT a few times. I just don't have a lot of fun there because the planeset isn't always what I like (P-51D has to be available either as free or perk)

[B17Skull12]

Originally posted by Midnight
(P-51D has to be available either as free or perk)

[kj714]

"1. Life limiter - A player gets only X lives per hour."

and you think people were p.o'd at ENY?

[Midnight]

Originally posted by kj714
"1. Life limiter - A player gets only X lives per hour."

and you think people were p.o'd at ENY?

Typical - read the post again. This would be another anrea. The MA would be left alone!

[GScholz]

Originally posted by VWE
4 an hour?! I don't die that many times in a night! If you want it to be closer to real, I'd say no more than 2 lives every 24 hours. That's right, you get 1 mulligan... after that your a bonehead that belongs in the MA!

Somebody must get killed if you're going to get a kill. The arena would be filled with nothing but runners, and after not very long ... very few players.

[Midnight]

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[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Midnight
And trust me, I don't think either crowd will miss the other

I disagree.  While I doubt that furballers would miss the "realism" junkies very much, I think a week in the new arena will have the realists pining for the good old days.

Once you put a price on dying, even if it's just a few perk points on some limit per hour, you've greatly increase the incentive for staying alive.  An arena without death costs, where some people fly solely to live and land kills and where a bunch of others don't care, leads to a nice relationship for those who fly to live.  It gives them a chance to fly conservatively and prey on those who do not.  Fair enough.

But now you're looking at an arena where dying carries substantially greater costs without some other objective (like missions) providing an incentive to engage enemies.  As a result, the arena hinges on players avoiding one another as much as possible.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Midnight]

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[Dead Man Flying]

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[MOIL]

Personaly I like the idea, I suggested to HTC a while ago many many times, Make it as "realistic" as possable.
Whenever there is no  consequence's to ones actions the outcome is obvious, granted, IRL if you were shot down or blown up you'd more than likely DIE. So being this is a "sim" having limited "lives" you could use within a given amount of time sounds ok.
The dive bombing Lanc pilots might think twice about it!

Who knows.

[Midnight]

-- Todd/Leviathn

For whatever reason you are trying to turn this into a flame fest, take it somewhere else. If you don't like the idea, then so be it. I don't care in the least right now. I am asking for HTC to set this up as an experiment in an existing arena (the CT) for a week or two. If people don't like it, they don't have to try it. If people try it and don't like it, then they can go back the the MA that they like. If enough people try it and like it, then maybe it could be used for a while longer.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Midnight
For whatever reason you are trying to turn this into a flame fest, take it somewhere else.

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Wrong.  I didn't flame you at all until after you introduced such zingers as "Once again, you show how unimaginative you (and players like you) can be" and "You say that and sound like an arse."  Don't even go off acting like some haplessly smeared defender of truth and justice.

Look, I'm not against HTC setting up an arena for the realists to go.  Like I said, the furballers will miss them far less than they'll miss the furballers.  But you're kidding yourself if you think my criticism somehow lacks imagination or originality.  This idea was tried in AW at one point (albeit with harsher penalties), and it failed miserably.  Best of luck to you, but I don't see how it can do anything but fail all the same.  I'd be happy to have you prove me wrong.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[K-KEN]

First, stop picking on Leviathon...he is my hero and mentor since Air Warrior.  Don't make me put a bounty on yer sorry arse! (Midnight)
Here is a refreshing idea......why not turn off the AW and dweeb settings that HT set in AH to allow them to take off and fly in the MA?  In the beginning, it was harder to fly than it is now.  AH2 is getting back to those settings and IMHO it can weed out the rif-raf.  But do not take my word for it.  
A new arena may require a complete rewrite of the code, another server to host it and the financial impact might just raise the price to my comfort level.  ($30.00 a month)  Would you like that??  I paid it and it was good for me.  Then you can have it your way-like at Burger King!  Put up or Shut up!  My credit card can handle it and so can I..........sheesh! In your defense, I like the night, and I want it back NOW!

K-KEN  

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