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Offline GScholz

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2004, 02:52:28 PM »
Why don't the squads of all three teams have squadnight on Sunday if they can. Then this thing would be balanced (at least more balanced).
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2004, 03:02:42 PM »
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Why don't the squads of all three teams have squadnight on Sunday if they can. Then this thing would be balanced (at least more balanced).


That is *the* question.

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2004, 06:48:56 PM »
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why dont Bish and Knights just join together on sunday nights and whoop the Rook hoard????


How do you think the Rook Horde developed? Years of the bish and nits gangbanging the rooks, and RJO formed and started fighting back.

Now we dominate with the weekly operations and the pendulum has swung to the other side..

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2004, 08:08:29 PM »
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Been so many negative posts recently, just wanted to say WTG on HQ defense last night!
Was nice to see so many people answer the call to arms against the Rook hoard HQ raid.
I don't even think 1 even got close enough to drop its eggs.
 Thats the reason I like the bish so much.

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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2004, 09:41:43 PM »
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why dont Bish and Knights just join together on sunday nights and whoop the Rook hoard????


Indeed ... and why is it that the only nites they seem to work together is on nights the Rooks are outnumbered anyway?  ENY still does nothing for the syndrome in the MA on weeknights.

If you want to "balance" against The Horde, then you better balance against all permutations of the tactic. Including the "undeclared truce" Horde. Otherwise all you're doing is punishing one country, while the other two take advantage of the loophole that's been left in the system. The longer this persists, the more entrenched people will become and the uglier the mood will get in the MA.

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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2004, 10:30:47 PM »
") Within a short time around 100 Rooks logged off.

Not so much fun when shoes on the other foot is it?"

LMAO  You have Got to be kidding.  I logged on Sunday, saw a ton of rooks, and just thought, man I am just not in the mood for this, others said the same thing, and I know I, and a bunch just left and did other things for the night.

You complain when the horde is on then come up with this when they leave?  Didn't you Want them to leave?  

Good grief this whole thing is just too pathetic.

I cannot believe you form a truce, to bypass the eny system, then brag about the results.  This is the most pathetic thing I have seen yet, far too much to keep my from splitting my gutt laughing.

What a joke, and what a shame.  But, trying to explain what I just meant would be like descibing the color "orange" to a blind man,  You have no point of reference, and would be a total waste of time.
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2004, 08:34:37 AM »
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Indeed ... and why is it that the only nites they seem to work together is on nights the Rooks are outnumbered anyway?  ENY still does nothing for the syndrome in the MA on weeknights.

If you want to "balance" against The Horde, then you better balance against all permutations of the tactic. Including the "undeclared truce" Horde. Otherwise all you're doing is punishing one country, while the other two take advantage of the loophole that's been left in the system. The longer this persists, the more entrenched people will become and the uglier the mood will get in the MA.

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Well Dok ... it appears that what you keep focusing on is not what HT had intended the ENY System to deal with, nor will it try to deal with it in the future.

Here is what he said ...

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Zazen: It is not flawed, it is not ment to balance "GAME PLAY" Thats what you are talking about when you talk about how the sides are currently fighting. That is dynamic, works well, and realy dosn't need any adjusting.

You are talking about somthing completly different that the ENY system was not ment to change in the least. And realy is quite irevelent as far as the ENY system goes.


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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2004, 08:57:45 AM »
(Originally posted by Howitzer)
I remember the huge MAW raids of the past, the ROCSTAR missions, the Freebirds, the Pornstars... these guys could organize and take bases. The best defense is a good offense, get guys together, fly away from the rook horde to a base they aren't looking at and start porking/capturing. Even on Sundays I see a big group of rooks hitting bish, and one hitting knights, there are a couple little small battles going on, but honestly there are about 10 bases on the frontline where nothing is happening. 25 ponies/tiffies/jugs can do amazing things to an undefended base.



 Hey you forgot the Birds Of Prey. :) We have great squad ops and regularly take several bases.

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2004, 10:35:33 AM »
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Well Dok ... it appears that what you keep focusing on is not what HT had intended the ENY System to deal with, nor will it try to deal with it in the future.

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Well in that case ... "never mind."

I won't bother flying except on the weekends when Rook numbers are enough to offset the way the MA seems to function.

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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2004, 11:17:13 AM »
Kev.....yes...was great fun defending HQ.

Side balancing:  Our Squad was asked to move to knights from Bish to help balance numbers.  It appears that moving squads is only a short term answer to the problem....and really is hit or miss depending on which night it is.

Our squad felt with then great number of squads that have flip flopped in the last year that consistency is needed.  For instance the old jump to Rook trick when greatly outnumbered etc. etc. etc.

So....we're never planning on moving (as an entire squad)  The MA will never have a true grasp on the numbers problem with squads and people jumping from side to side.  Even if it's only for one campaign.

Now...my opinion (which is worth little)  I don't care about being outnumbered.  It really didn't bother me when Rooks had a huge advantage in numbers.  What bothered me was why they had the advantage.....and it wasn't RJO.  It was the side jumping that caused the imbalance (during RJO).  Some squads and individuals would jump just to pad numbers.  Hey....your money play like you want...more targets for me. If the jumping Bish squads would have went to the Knights I would have applauded!  But...they took the path of least resistance and went Rook.  Wonder why??
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2004, 11:21:07 AM »
ah2 should even out teams automatically like delta force 2 does when you join game.
At the moment all new players become bish and then they learn to fly from other bish and create loyalties..

I feel that if ah2 automaticaly asigned you a country when you joined a game placing you in the team with least amount of players this would even out the teams

Obviously they should leave in the option to change your country. but atleast this way some newbies will have there loyalties els where other than 100% bish :)

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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2004, 01:36:11 PM »
Ro-Crats - The attempted truce between Bish/Knits was PRE ENV limits, in a attempt to stop both countries getting steamrollered.
No such truce has been tried POST env limits. So there was no 'bypassing env restictions' going on.

Wasn't complaining about the 100 or so Rooks logging, just thought it was kinda funny once they realised what was going on, and that it's not so much fun when you find out you are the vastly outnumbered country suddenly.
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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2004, 02:44:15 PM »
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No such truce has been tried POST env limits. So there was no 'bypassing env restictions' going on.
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May not be intentional, but it's still happening. Just scanning the bar dar and counting fields on any weeknight makes it pretty clear. And I don't feel like arguing the point. ENY has made this game very tiring to deal with lately, not from a difficulty standpoint - but just because it casts such a shadow on everything.


It's a shame this topic got hijacked, the Bish defense of HQ Sunday was wild - I only caught the opening stanzas and that was plenty interesting.