Author Topic: If Russia joins US in "global fight" on terror? (Read 1349 times)

Stang · « **Reply #45 on:** September 14, 2004, 07:11:05 PM »

And, Skull, I want to know if your teacher also said we shouldn't support Israel because of this "cause." I'm dying to hear the lies being fed to America's youth.

Stang · « **Reply #46 on:** September 14, 2004, 07:10:44 PM »

And, Skull, I want to know if your teacher also said we shouldn't support Israel because of this "cause." I'm dying to hear the lies being fed to America's youth.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #47 on:** September 14, 2004, 09:48:42 PM »

no she didn't say the isreali cause was not justified, just the fact that 2 people think they should own the same land. would you sue someone if you found he built something on your properity?

Stang · « **Reply #48 on:** September 15, 2004, 01:49:54 AM »

Skull, I'll have to respond to this tomorrow... The land that was Israel from 1947 was not land that was taken.... yet another huge fallacy.

Dowding · « **Reply #49 on:** September 15, 2004, 04:38:45 AM »

Selective out of context cross-thread quoting - when you don't have anything to say, it at least allows you to keep your post rate up, what what?

JBA · « **Reply #50 on:** September 15, 2004, 07:54:06 AM »

I don't see Russia sending troops into Iraq, I don't see them stoping their arming of Iran, and pre-war Iraq. The complained about Serbia.
When will the join the "global War on terror?

Toad · « **Reply #51 on:** September 15, 2004, 07:55:47 AM »

Yeah, wouldn't it be lovely if you could say one thing in one thread and then say something contradictory in another thread and have no one notice?

Dowding · « **Reply #52 on:** September 15, 2004, 08:08:07 AM »

Contradictory on the surface, but only if you misunderstand what I meant and then take it out of context. Don't let that stop you, however.

Toad · « **Reply #53 on:** September 15, 2004, 10:41:47 AM »

History is history, chum. It's either important to know it or (apparently) it's not important to know it and take it into account .

You decide.

Dowding · « **Reply #54 on:** September 15, 2004, 10:46:34 AM »

Knock it off. My point in the other thread had nothing to do with ignoring history. It was about using past injustice to justify new injustices, citing both slave reparations and forced unification of NI as examples.

If anything history teaches us that two wrongs don't make a right. Your deliberately obtuse responses won't wash.

Toad · « **Reply #55 on:** September 15, 2004, 10:53:02 AM »

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Yet another American believing they are the original terrorist victim. It seems the lack of knowledge about history is becoming a norm in the Western world.

Tell me, how did you use "Western world" in this quote? Do you include Jolly Olde in that generalization?

As for your intent in the other thread, what you believe you expressed may not be how it was received by the audience.

Boroda · « **Reply #56 on:** September 15, 2004, 11:18:35 AM »

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Originally posted by JBA
I don't see Russia sending troops into Iraq,

Joining an agression while we still have problems inside the country that deserve military countermeasures? What for? To die for foreign interests again? We have Chechnya, it's more then enough.

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Originally posted by JBA
I don't see them stoping their arming of Iran, and pre-war Iraq.

US armed both Iran and Iraq. So what? If they want to buy our weapons - it means that if we don't sell them - someone else will. And I am sure it will be US companies.

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Originally posted by JBA
The complained about Serbia.

Agression against Yugoslavia was an open and clear operation of supporting terrorists. Wrong argument here.

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Originally posted by JBA
When will the join the "global War on terror?

It's not a war on terror, it's a usual newspeak slogan hiding usual hypocritical policy of double standards. "Fighting" terrorists and at the same time giving them political support.

Dowding · « **Reply #57 on:** September 15, 2004, 11:36:46 AM »

Western world generally means Western Europe as well as Yank-Land. I'm guessing you're choosing to be obtuse again, as I'm told schooling in the 1920s was of a better standard than the late 20th century education I received.

Awful grand of you to speak on the behalf of the 'audience', by the way. Your misconception and unwillingness to understand after the fact is your problem. I have tried to explain it after all.

Have a nice day now!

Toad · « **Reply #58 on:** September 15, 2004, 11:40:43 AM »

Well, I was one of the audience.

Interesting you use the American then as your example of the "Western world".

Dowding · « **Reply #59 on:** September 15, 2004, 11:50:50 AM »

Not really, if anything it illuminates your need to find anti-American agenda everywhere.

He's an American with an ignorant view of global terrorism - I stated that. But to say that Americans only are getting stupider would be unfair, hence the Western world comment. I'd readily include the UK as a country who's people are in the race for the dumb and dumberer prize for History. And many other prizes besides.

No need to call in Mulder or Scully just yet.