Author Topic: Hilter - The Rise of Evil (TV) (Read 338 times)

Gh0stFT · « **on:** September 15, 2004, 02:41:49 AM »

Hitler - The Rise of Evil will start here on 24 Sept. on local TV.
Its an USA/CANADA production, anyone already seen it?
Looks like its an Docu/Movie.

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Furball · « **Reply #1 on:** September 15, 2004, 03:04:39 AM »

thats not the one with Robert Carlyle in it? the one that was on UK tva year or so ago, is it?

If so it is very good, Robert Carlyle pulls off Hitler's speeches and actions brilliantly.

mora · « **Reply #2 on:** September 15, 2004, 03:36:29 AM »

That's the one, it's indeed very good.

Replicant · « **Reply #3 on:** September 15, 2004, 06:27:00 AM »

Aye, it's a very good programme!

Wotan · « **Reply #4 on:** September 15, 2004, 07:15:40 AM »

It's terrible and a typical "Hollywood Hitler".

The best "Hitler" in a movie was played by Alec Guiness in the "Last Ten days"

There's a new German Movie about the last days in the Führer bunker.

Der Untergang

From the trailer it to seems like another Hollywood caricature rather then a real person. Maybe Hitler was really like that but to me it seems over the top especially when reading descriptions from his close associates.

I think in the long run, especially if the only impression folks have of Hitler comes from these types of films, betrays the historical record and makes it easy for people to rationalize away his true evil by seeing him as something less then a "real person".

Saintaw · « **Reply #5 on:** September 15, 2004, 09:54:35 AM »

I liked that show too (not sure I saw it all, the one I saw ended in 1935 ish). Of course I wasn't around in the 30's to compare him with the real Hitler

Makarov9 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 15, 2004, 10:13:53 AM »

'Der Untergang' looks to be based on the info from Hitler's secretary Traudl Junge. The documentary Blind Spot about her life was very moving and well done.

Replicant · « **Reply #7 on:** September 15, 2004, 11:35:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Wotan
It's terrible and a typical "Hollywood Hitler".

The best "Hitler" in a movie was played by Alec Guiness in the "Last Ten days"

There's a new German Movie about the last days in the Führer bunker.

Der Untergang

From the trailer it to seems like another Hollywood caricature rather then a real person. Maybe Hitler was really like that but to me it seems over the top especially when reading descriptions from his close associates.

I think in the long run, especially if the only impression folks have of Hitler comes from these types of films, betrays the historical record and makes it easy for people to rationalize away his true evil by seeing him as something less then a "real person".

Have you actually seen it?

I didn't even realise it was Hollywood Hitler. Hitler actually came across a lot better than I ever anticipated and his actual basic belief was something most could identify with (especially in the UK when many assylum seekers are being admitted after being kicked out of every other country in Europe). Obviously it showed him slightly unhinged but I found it very interesting considering the lack of 'drama' material around regarding Hitler.

Nefarious · « **Reply #8 on:** September 15, 2004, 12:39:59 PM »

I posted a thread about the new film "The Downfall", Anyway, the way news is reporting on it, it seems very controversial.

Octavius · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2004, 12:50:07 PM »

I thought it was rather hollywoodish as well. Too dramatic, not enough accuracy. And I also couldn't get past a Hitler with a British accent.

Wotan · « **Reply #10 on:** September 15, 2004, 02:30:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Replicant
Have you actually seen it?

I didn't even realise it was Hollywood Hitler. Hitler actually came across a lot better than I ever anticipated and his actual basic belief was something most could identify with (especially in the UK when many assylum seekers are being admitted after being kicked out of every other country in Europe). Obviously it showed him slightly unhinged but I found it very interesting considering the lack of 'drama' material around regarding Hitler.

Yes I saw it.