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« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2004, 02:45:09 PM »
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hmm... still no one who wants to guess what all these extremelyu common firearms are?

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i got trenchgun right didnt i? how much did that cost you if you dont mind me asking.

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« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2004, 03:10:53 PM »
I think it was around $300 but there was some importation problems at the time so the price might have been higher.

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« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2004, 03:56:10 PM »
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hmm... still no one who wants to guess what all these extremelyu common firearms are?

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Speak English and get to the point.  Do you want people to ID the guns?  Is there some other answer you're looking for?

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« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2004, 09:25:36 AM »
well... I am the clumsiest and noisest typist ever (they call it keyboarding now I guess)   Having a ch j stick bolted to the desk and moving the keyboard off center doesn't help either and.... there is that other small problem with litteracy.. but...

the question, like every thread here.... morphed.

I wanted to know what guns the anti gun nuts thought were too evil or dangerous or whatever for me to own.

Then I find that none of em... and most of the pro gun guys too... really even know what the guns in question are.

The pro gun guys knew the most and even their bad guess's weren't that far off... and... they understoood that all were potentially dangerous...

the anti gun guys scoffed at some while showing respect for others.... it was funny that they often assigned the most danger to some of the least powerful and vice versa.

How easy is it for people who don't know anything to be manifpulated by the media?

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« Reply #64 on: September 17, 2004, 10:37:22 AM »
Ah... so the question should be:

Which guns do you think are the most dangerous... and why?

In all fairness to people not knowing guns... the market is flooded with variants on variants these days.  The conversion to the hammerless pistol has made things even more diverse.  It's easy to keep a casual eye on, but difficult to track to the point that you can recognize everything.

As far as the riffles go, all the WW2 stuff looks the same to me.  A mauser vs some turkish riffle with a mauser action.

Of course, the people that are anti-gun are always the ones that know the absolute least about them.  The CNN/AK-47/Cinderblock fiasco highlights that.  The fact that people bring up automatic weapons in regards to the "assault weapons ban" highlights that.  The fact that people called a .32 a girly gun highlights that.

Me... I'm just trying to get over the fact that it is entirely likely you wore one of those guns in a holster while you were naked.

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« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2004, 11:10:50 AM »
yep... I think that the fact that most of the anti gun guys don't even know which guns to demonize or why when confronted with a choice... I also think that most peoples prjudices and neurosis don't survive contact with the real thing..

never took anyone shooting who didn't enjoy the experiance.

as for the last item... not that I would do anything to further your sexual dysfunction... it is the superblackhawk upper right..  I hope that when you are with the little woman you can keep it out of your mind... it is as simple as... "don't think about the elephant"

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« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2004, 04:15:47 PM »
Nice collection Lazs, heres mine





sorry bout the crappy quality, my camera sucks!




Also, as soon as they get back with me on price, I'll be adding one of these to the collection  :aok

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« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2004, 04:49:23 PM »
If it were Aus you were asking about, it would be an easy Q.
Everything in the top picture, and all bar the Lee Enfield and the Mauser in the second pick would be illegal to own.

In the States, and I'm guessing here, it would be the 1944 M1 Garrand, and the 'riot' shotgun with the lug on the barrel for attachments that would get you in trouble.
Maybe the Ruger Mini 14 too, depending on how many rounds that mag takes.

Nice selection of weaponry there anyway Lazs, looks like they'd make for many a great day of can carnage.

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« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2004, 04:56:33 PM »
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i like 2 of them.. guess who it is

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« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2004, 04:56:47 PM »
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"the anti gun guys scoffed at some while showing respect for others..."


Who were the anti-gun guys in this thread? Sounds like yer dissapointed that you didn't get a fight. You certainly aint getting one from me.

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« Reply #70 on: September 18, 2004, 11:16:34 PM »
First handguns. In CA there are a bunch of guns got banned because they were considered unsafe for whatever reason. Half of those handguns may be banned but I wouldnt know. Just a guess.

Rifles. The one with the bayonet fixture if any and the mini-14 cause of its clip.

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« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2004, 09:37:34 AM »
every one of the guns in the pictures is legal to own with no special restrictions in California.  

bluedog... that really is too bad... all of the handguns are really fun to shoot.

I was just wondering what guns the anti gun guys think that I shouldn't own and..... if so... why?

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« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2004, 11:24:41 AM »
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I was just wondering what guns the anti gun guys think that I shouldn't own and..... if so... why?

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Sounds like a trick question...  I would suspect an anti gun guy would not want you to own any of the guns.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2004, 11:36:04 AM »
It's not a trick question... it's a valid one.

Anti-gun legislation is based on slowly banning more and more guns.  Basically, finding new reasons for banning additional weapons.

Laz's rifle list has a couple of rifles that would be very close to being banned with the "assault weapons ban" that just expired, though both are just as leathal (if not more) than most weapons that showed up on that list.

The Mini-14 is actually banned by law in some states.  The AR-15 is too.  Why?  Because they look scary.  The mini-14 is perhaps the lowest powered riffle and least accurate of that bunch.  But, it does have a clip sticking out.

The ironic thing is that the Germans requested a ban on the shotgun that is third from the bottom after WWI.  It is, by far, the most lethal of the bunch for closer quarters work.  Yet, shotguns are usually the last weapon to be banned with incremental bans.  It tells you that the people instilling the bands know nothing about the weapons they are having banned.  It tells you that the voters know very little about the legislation they are voting on.  It tells you that uninformed hype and hysteria are more dangerous than 30 million handguns.

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« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2004, 02:05:11 PM »
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It tells you that uninformed hype and hysteria are more dangerous than 30 million handguns.


Spot on.  The AWB is what happens when legislators who haven't a clue exercise their control.  Wife and I had a get together with some of her friends this past weekend.  One of the guys knows that I'm into firearms (he is ambivalent), and mentioned the sunset of the AWB just recently.  I mentioned that counter to what is shown on the news, the law wasn't about automatic weapons (machine guns).  That, if you read the letter of the law it only mentions semi-auto weapons and cosmetics.  He wasn't aware of that at all.  

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