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Offline 2point6

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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2004, 09:31:23 AM »
no help here????
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2004, 10:45:35 AM »
Check the system requirements at the Aces High homepage (http://www.flyaceshigh.com)

Your vid card needs to support hardware T&L or it ain't gonna work.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2004, 11:25:16 AM »
but i know it dose....
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2004, 09:28:24 PM »
The only reference I can find to a Radeon 7000 is the Radeon 7000 VE.  The VE ........ and this is the term they actually used in the benchmark test..... "used a castrated 3d engine to save money".  Looks like a small business (read the word "cheap" here) multi-monitor card, not a gamer.  Also states it does not support hardware T&L.  If this is your card, it wont work.  If they made another Radeon 7000 besides the VE, its at best a GeForce2 contemporary.  Also has 64 bit memory vs even the GF2's 128 bit setup.  Maybe that will work, maybe it wont.  Is it even compatible with DX9?

Now that the new series cards are out, the 9000 series ATI cards are pretty cheap.  Even if by some miracle that old 7000 IS compatible and you make it work, your frame rates and video quality will be low.  Probably should consider upgrading, if only for the fact that soon nothing will support your card anyway.  

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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2004, 12:18:33 PM »
i only can have pci cards not the newer ones.. that's why i payed $89 for 64mb radeon 7000 evil wizard...

i dont have that agp port or whatever....
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2004, 03:15:03 PM »
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i only can have pci cards not the newer ones.. that's why i payed $89 for 64mb radeon 7000 evil wizard...

i dont have that agp port or whatever....


AGP isnt a requirement for anything.  PCI cards work just fine, just maybe a tad bit slower because of the speed of the PCI bus, but nothing wrong with 'em.  And most of the newer cards have PCI versions available.  CompUSA has PCI versions of almost every 9xxx series ATI card on the shelf, and they are usually cheaper than the AGP version.  If you cant find it at your local store, you can certainly find it online.  

There are a few AH2 players that have 64MB cards that work.  Not many, but a few have managed to make their old cards work.  Even so, I'd bet they are newer model cards than yours.  As I said before, maybe there is a way to make yours work.  I dont know what that would be, so my best suggestion for you if you are set against upgrading is to send a copy of your DXDiagnostic file and any other information you feel is relevant to the support email and have skuzzy look it over for you.  Good luck!
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2004, 04:54:59 PM »
You must use the latest video driver from NVidia for older cards in order for the card to get proper support of hardware T&L.  Older drivers do not expose this feature to DirectX 9.
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2004, 06:08:10 PM »
it's ati radeon 7000 evil wizard.... and it is new i bought it at staples a month ago...

i cant find new drivers for it anywhere....
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2004, 06:29:41 PM »
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i cant find new drivers for it anywhere....


I guess that means you didn't look on the ATI site.
http://ati.com/support/driver.html

OR... many prefer the Omegas
http://www.omegadrivers.net/
« Last Edit: October 11, 2004, 06:41:01 PM by DAVENRINO »
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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2004, 07:38:27 PM »
installed driver, and thanx for that omega driver link....

still says t&L... BUT I PLAY OTHER GAMES THAT HAVE T&L STUFF....  IS THERE A PATCH FOR THE GAME THAT CAN FIX THIS???
« Last Edit: October 11, 2004, 07:58:12 PM by 2point6 »
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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2004, 02:08:01 AM »
Brand new in the physical sense doesnt mean its new in how old that processor line is.  To be blunt, your card is a decent all around video card for just about anything EXCEPT gaming.  Just because it plays other games doesnt mean it plays them all, and doesnt mean it plays them well compared to more modern stuff.  Heck, I can go to the computer store and buy a "brand new" Rage 128.  Here's a review for you if you just cant believe me.

http://forums.pimprig.com/showthread.php?p=219231#post219231
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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2004, 01:47:52 PM »
mine is the same but it's not 32mb is 64.. but exactly the same box and everything...
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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2004, 01:55:17 PM »
what do you guys recomend i do.... spend $109 on the 128mb radeon pci.... or get a new computer that i cant get untill in like 6 months or more....

1ghz celeron,512mb ram,win xp pro,15"tft lcd monitor...

and i can only have pci cards cuz my computer company ripped me off.... no agp...
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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2004, 02:01:08 PM »
So did you actually read that review ?

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The Testing

As stated before, nobody in their right mind would buy this card and use it for gaming.


Whichever graphics card you purchase i suspect the 1g celeron is really gonna struggle.

A modern chipset radeon PCI card that supports dx9 and T&L would be your best stop gap option, but taking the long term view a new computer would be your best option.

If you do decide to get a new one try coming back here when your ready and asking for some suggestions as to what to and what not to buy.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2004, 02:05:20 PM by 214thCavalier »
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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2004, 02:30:11 PM »
Cav is quite right.  A 1Ghz Celeron is equivalent to a 600-700Mhz P4, in terms of performance in games.
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