A few films

[bloom25]

I had an interesting night tonight and took a few films.  First is a film of Frenchy in his p47: frenchy.zip and here in regular film format for those with faster connections frenchyfilm.ahf  (I need to mention here that I can't hit a thing with the yak.   )

Next is a giant (and long) furball film.  Near the start of the film I put some rounds into an n1k.  Watch this n1k for a while.  At one point it appears to hang on the prop for around 10 seconds.  (I'm sure my connect wasn't to blame, I had very good ping times until the server crashed(?) around 11:00 PST.  This was much earlier, around 8:00.)  The film ends with me following a 109 I had just killed into a hill.    furball.ahf and the smaller zipped strange.zip

The last film ended with me vulching (yeah, I know   ).  While being fired at by a pesky flak panzer; I fought a n1k a couple times.  This guy wasn't a rookie, he would spawn then ditch as soon as I got close enough to hit him many times.  (Note, the film often still shows him there.)  Some interesting things about this film:  The first time I shoot this n1k down to clear gijoe, I mysteriously took some pings.  I was on the 6 of the n1k though?!?  The ack was down by this time and I was way out of range for the ostie to hit me.  The really odd part of this film comes near the end.  After I down the n1k near a hill some 3.5k from the base.  (There is some weirdness here too, the n1k instantly changes direction once when I am firing at him.)  After he goes down, he spawns again.  You will see me head back toward the base and he will be rolling on the runway about 3.3k away.  I pass over him and dive down, picking up an enormous amount of speed.  The n1k immediately pulls off a fast loop (he couldn't have been over 200 mph at this point) and ends up going the other direction.  I finish a low g loop myself and dive back onto the n1k.  Although I can't say I fought a very good fight, there are a few things to notice here:  Watch how fast the n1k is able to loop, turn, and yet can still doesn't seem to be losing any E.  Ever since it took off it was turning and looping.  Eventually I decide that fighting any longer is fruitless, there is no way I have enough E to fight with this n1k.  After we pass (notice the direction the n1k is flying), I point the nose down and punch the wep.  Not 2 seconds later my whole tail comes off with 3 pings.  The n1k had somehow reversed direction nearly instantly and then managed to saw off my whole tail from 900 yds away!

Something is not right, maybe the n1k driver (I won't name names) had a bad connect, which from the film doesn't seem likely.  Either that or I did, yet I check my net status quite frequently and I had a near perfect connect.  (No spikes, trace route later on showed a 120 ms ping as the longest I could get.)  The film also doesn't seem to show this, the beacon never changes color.  It just doesn't seem right to me that a n1k could possibly maintain this much E while continuously turning, looping, climbing, etc.  It then saws off the whole tail of my p51 with only 3 pings, from almost 900 yds away.  This only after it magically changed direction in less than 1 second.  Maybe I missed something, but it sure doesn't seem right to me.  Anyway, here's the film:  n1k.zip or in ahf format n1kmoves.ahf

I would really like to hear feedback from someone else.  Until tonight I hadn't really fought the n1k much, but something just seems off.  



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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS

[Wardog]

Bloom..

Within the last 6 to 7 days i have seen the oddest things happening at the most inoppertune times.

Got con in sites at 275 ready to pull trigger,con is gone. Look all over rolling plane for view, find con at 975 away from me.

Now this has happened more than 12 times in the last week. At 1st im thinking, ALT S dweeb.. but then i find out who the pilot is & talk to them. Good sticks that wouldnt ALT S.

My conclusion is, Net is very unstable at this time and has been for a week or so.

Take anything right now with a grain of salt, just seems the Net is havin a hard time.


Dog out..

[bloom25]

WD, just watch the film with trails on.  The n1k is nice and smooth the whole time.  The second time I killed him, notice how the trail instantly changes direction.

Then after I come back, notice that the n1k turns hard right after take off and then immediately pulls off a loop.  As I come over the top and pursue him he then again makes a VERY sharp turn to the left.  Now the n1k begins to pull right up into me, even though I'm at least 2000 ft above him.  He manages to even get above me, even though I was climbing as well, and turning much less sharply than him.  Now the n1k dives, instantly changes direction, and pulls up into me.  It then proceeds to climb up to me, while rapidly gaining on me.  I even have wep on and am in a 0 g acceleration state.  At 875k or so my whole tail gets shot off.  I just can't believe a plane can have that much E after take off...  That and only 3 pings neccesary to take off both elevators and the rudder of a p51, not likely.  The p51 is far more durable than an n1k, or so I thought.

(I found out what caused those mysterious pings on the first kill, somehow my squaddie flew under me and took 3 pings from my guns.   )

I really want to believe it was the net, but I can't do that in the situation.  The fight was just too smooth.  The n1k just has extraordinary E retention (lol, it doesn't ever lose E).




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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS

[StSanta]

bloom, me and animal have also been "shot down" when killing an enemy from a dead 6 shot. Yer also a knight; something is amiss. Either someone is hacking AH or some bug is appearing.



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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}

[bloom25]

Actually those pings from dead 6 were my fault.  Griz was flying under me (I didn't know that) and somehow I shot him a couple times while filling the n1k with lead.

What I'm concerned about is how the n1k was able to gain/maintain so much E right after takeoff.



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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS

[SOB]

I don't think I can comment on flight models and such, but as far as what the Niki did, I didn't see anything too outrageous.  It did what it does well...maneuver.  On that first loop he's completely out of E at the top, which is why he extends down over the field to pick up speed.  After extending he turns back to engage you and proceeds to bank up to maneuver on your 6, but since he's lacking the speed and E to do so, he ends up cutting out early and comes back around with another loop, with you coming in good firing position on his high 6...he's out of E at the top & if you had been able to pull inside a bit more, he'd have been dead.  You left yourself open for that shot, ignoring the fact that the Niki can pick up speed quickly and get it's nose back in the air and pointed at you.  He may have only hit you with a few shots, but remember that you already had some of your own .50s in you as well.

The niki is a light plane with a powerful engine, and can manuever without a lot of energy.  It's drawbacks are that it can't chase much down, although it does dive nicely.  You can loop it right off of the runway, but not without loosing speed.  

It does not do 180s in the blink of an eye, or keep a constant e state no matter what kind of maneuvering it's doing, despite what some would like to believe.  It's just a friggin' Zeke on steroids...apart from turning, it can dive without the wings falling off, and it can take more than one 9mm bullet without blowing up!  

The last part was for all you whiney "damn chogs and niks and spits and 190a5s and flaks and killer sheep" beeches out there...not for bloom  


SOB

[Swager]

I feel your pain Bloom!

I've seen some strange stuff too!!

Alot of it dealing with N1K2's!

Huh?????

[RAM]

-No comment-

[sourkraut]

Sure RAM - lol

Sour

[Lephturn]

OMG, the shortest post I ever saw from RAM.  Damn that was nice, almost as good as if he didn't post at all!  

I also want to remind folks that the N1k has 4x 20mm cannons.  So yeah, a "few" pings will blow the tail off of a 51 quite easily.  That's a 20 mm cannon shell... they explode and do much damage.

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Lephturn - Chief Trainer
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A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale, Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you, When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover, You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!" -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Thx for the films Bloom, but "frenchy" is not the good one  
May you look for it and send me the correct one pls?

[This message has been edited by SFRT - Frenchy (edited 12-01-2000).]