My dumb solution to the NOE bomber attacks from hell

[Furious]

Its gamey to be sure but...


Redo the formation thing.

You have only your bomber at take off.  At 5K another one shows up and joins your formation.  At 10k Another one joins.  At 15k you get another and so on.

If you NOE, you do it alone.  The higher you climb the more "help" your formation gets.

...the drones would drop out of formation as altitude decreases.



Kind of a carrot and not a stick sort of thing.

[Muckmaw1]

Don't really mind it, but the thought of airplanes appearing out of thin air is...well..like you said...gamey.

Too gamey for me.

[ALF]

Originally posted by Furious
Its gamey to be sure but...


Redo the formation thing.

You have only your bomber at take off.  At 5K another one shows up and joins your formation.  At 10k Another one joins.  At 15k you get another and so on.

If you NOE, you do it alone.  The higher you climb the more "help" your formation gets.

...the drones would drop out of formation as altitude decreases.



Kind of a carrot and not a stick sort of thing.

Yet another solution looking for a problem.    It would be similar to saying that your tired of alt monkeys and fighters should lose 10% of their ammo for every 1000 feet above 15k.

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• Just becuase you dont like the way someone else flies their plane doesnt make it a 'problem'.
• Bombers in WWII could and did fly at low level...anyone heard of Dolittle?  It is one example but there were many many many others...and not just the highly touted damn busters either
• We already have an 'arming delay' on bombs
• Low level bombers are easy targets for organized fighter cover
• Low level bombers are easy targets for disorganized fighter cover
• Low level bombers are easy targets period
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Please explain why you feel its incorrect for someone to fly a bomber at low altiitude?

[DREDIOCK]

I have no problem with NOE bombing runs.
Its the B17/Lancaster Dive bombes I see as problematic

[Furious]

Alf,
"many, many, many others" equals what percentage of total bomber sorties flown???

I didn't say ya couldn't do NOE bomber runs.  I just suggested you didn't get to have 3 ships to do it with.




btw, I prefer the bombers low.  Much easier to kill that way.

... but, with such a low effort flight profile (ie.  take off, point at target, hit auto pilot, jump in gunner position, if you make it to base fling thousands of pounds of ordinance about, die in ack) why should you get three planes to do it with?  

The formations are supposed to make up for the increased difficulty of getting ord on target with the new bombsight, not give you 3 mobile ack lives.

Heck I want 2 more La5's following me around so that when I die i can just hop in the next one and continue on my merry little way.

[Muckmaw1]

There really is no reason a person could not pull a low alt bomber run.

It's stupid and usually suicidal but hey...

[Octavius]

I like Furi's idea.  Easy targets don't appeal to me 100% of the time  I want some sort of challenge - and I'd like to see some effort likewise.  I can't remember the last time I found a difficult buff formation to down.

Alf, while I agree with the

[ego]
And no, I *don't* lose against a lone buff group no matter what the alt
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Maybe incremental bomb type altitudes can be explored.  Ie, 1000lb and 500lb from atleast 10k alt;  250lb from 5000ft; 100lb from atleast 500ft.

[Heretic]

I LOVE the low altitude bomber strikes.    I just up my Osti and start shooting down bombers.     Not much of a lead on them even when they are low and coming right at ya.    Just put the pipper right on em and hold a tad high at 1.5K and watch the destruction.      

Even better when I'm in my BF109G10.  Just chop the throttle and dive down on them and fire away.     I can usually get two on one pass if I have a full ammo loadout.    Then circle around on the last one and down him as well.         I'm all for the NOE bomber strikes.     Keep bringing in and I'll do my best to ruin your run in to target.

[Blammo]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I have no problem with NOE bombing runs.
Its the B17/Lancaster Dive bombes I see as problematic

Right on the money.

[Morpheus]

When I hear NOE buffs ib my base i imediately up an A8 loaded with 30's and 25% fuel. Other times it will be a 110G2.

Hi, My name is Morph and I love  NOE bomber pileets.

especially pileets named Rod367th

[DipStick]

How about (on hvy bombers) bomb doors will not open under 15k and bombs will not release unless 'auto-level' is engaged?

[Muckmaw1]

Originally posted by DipStick
How about (on hvy bombers) bomb doors will not open under 15k and bombs will not release unless 'auto-level' is engaged?

I do not think it is fair to designate a minimum bombing altitude.

Though I agree bombs should not drop when a plane is +/- 3 degrees pitch from level, I see no reason why a person should not be able to level bomb from 1000 feet. (Though it's harder).

I routinely bomb CVs from 6-7K level. I certainly do not want this facet of my game eliminated.

[rod367th]

Everyone wants to complain how others fly. Shut up and play your way and respect how others enjoy game. Bombing low alt is normal way to play same as guys flying 35k in fighters in groups.







 wipass is a dweeb morpheus lover..........

[Zanth]

Bomber do great at low level, I got 8 tanks in one sortie with a lancaster last week. Awesome dive bomber the Lancaster.  Should they be able to do that? Probably not, but they do it AH and you can't fault anyone for flying anything to it's full capabilities (just as real pilots did).

edit to add  I rather hunt low bombers than high ones anyway - takes a lot less time.

[wipass]

hell must have frozen over, I agree with rod

wipass