Rumors of a New Grumman Bird?

[Soulyss]

If there is a "new" grumman plane coming I would venture a guess that it's the F6F-3

[TBolt A-10]

Originally posted by Soulyss
If there is a "new" grumman plane coming I would venture a guess that it's the F6F-3

O, man!!!  I remember - quite a while back - asking for a Hellkitty with cannons!!!  O, now I'm drooling.  

(daydreaming) "Could it be???"
(daydreaming) "Could it be???"
(daydreaming) "Could it be???"
(daydreaming) "Could it be???"

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The F6F-5 replaced the F6F-3 on the factory line in the Spring of 1944, and was built until the end of the war. It featured a modified cowling and canopy, and the P & W R-2800-10W engine with a water injection boost system. The F6F-5 was able to carry external fuel tanks, rockets, or a pair of 450 kg (1,000 lb) bombs. It was called Gannet Mk.II and later Hellcat Mk.II by the British Fleet Air Arm.
7,870 were built, including a few interesting subversions: the F6F-5E (with the AN/APS-4 radar) and F6F-5N (with the AN/APS-6 radar) were night fighters, armed with two 20 mm cannons and four 12.7 mm (0.50 cal) guns; 1,434 were built. The F6F-5P was a photographic reconnaissance version.

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[Muckmaw1]

Originally posted by TBolt A-10
I really want to bite & make a comment about the possibility of a Bearcat and/or a Tigercat in AH.  But, I smell a hook.  

Fear not the hook for there is none there.

Go for it. This is an honest discussion...so far.

[Greebo]

You guys have all got it wrong, this is the new Grumman.......

[WarRaidr]

I have it from a good source that the new Grumman bird is a perk bird to help beat those pesky LA-7's

[TBolt A-10]

Originally posted by Muckmaw1
Fear not the hook for there is none there.

Said the fishermen to all the little fishies in the sea...    

I'll just stick to the Hellcat with cannons, for now.  Thank you.  

[Elfie]

Originally posted by whels
im sorry but it did make it. it was on combat duty aboard the
USS Langley, with VF18 and 19. it was in production and in squad service before end of ww2, so eventually it should be here.

VF 18 and VF 19 had the F8F not the F7F, the F7F did not make it to operational status.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by whels
im sorry but it did make it. it was on combat duty aboard the
USS Langley, with VF18 and 19. it was in production and in squad service before end of ww2, so eventually it should be here.

Seems like this has come up before.  F8F never saw combat.

If you add that, you'd have to add the P80 as at least it was in theater with the 1st FG in Italy.  Of course then you'd have to add the Meteor as it at least fired it's guns in anger.  Then you'd need the Volkjager, and on and on.

Too many planes that actually participated in the conflict that should come long before the might have beens, had no impact on the war types.

Dan/Slack

[J_A_B]

"Too many planes that actually participated in the conflict that should come long before the might have beens, had no impact on the war types. "


This is only relevant for people who are actually interested in somehow re-creating WW2.


IMO, since the MA in no way represents any past war, plane additions should be chosen more for usefulness and how well they "fit" in the MA than worthless factors like nationality or WW2 usage (and if I had my way, there'd be several different arenas with different eras of airplanes available, instead of a single MA).   A better argument against the "uber" propeller planes like the Sea Fury and the Bearcat (especially the 20mm ones) is that they're simply "too good" to make for good balance against the majority of piston-engine fighters.  

Personally, I view a transport as the single biggest plane type AH2 needs as an addition since it's a much-used type with only a single model to choose from currently.  

J_A_B

[Rino]

Originally posted by Muckmaw1
I hate to contradict you Ra, but I volunteer at a museum dedicated to Grumman Aircraft. There were only 2 built. I also double checked it in 2 Aircraft Encyclopedia's. Only 2.

In a way, I agree we don't need an uber F8F. It is smaller, more maneuverable, and climbs 30% faster than the F6F.

However, being a fan of the Ironworks, this plane would make my nipples hard.

Now, did the F8F ever see combat in WWII? No. But it was aboard the carriers and in the pacific theatre in the srping of '45.

Anyway, any truth to this rumor?

I'm going to go buy some Udder Balm.

     There were apparently 500 F7Fs ordered, but the contract was
cut short at the end of hostilities.  34 F7F-1s were built, followed
by 30 2-seat F7F-2Ns.  Then 189 F7F-3s with improved R-2800s,
slightly larger vertical stabs and 7% more fuel.

     Less than 100 F7Fs were built after the war, but as you can
see..alot more than 2 were produced.

[Muckmaw1]

Originally posted by Rino
There were apparently 500 F7Fs ordered, but the contract was
cut short at the end of hostilities.  34 F7F-1s were built, followed
by 30 2-seat F7F-2Ns.  Then 189 F7F-3s with improved R-2800s,
slightly larger vertical stabs and 7% more fuel.

     Less than 100 F7Fs were built after the war, but as you can
see..alot more than 2 were produced.

You did'nt read the whole thread did you?

2 WEEKS DETENTION!!!

Seriously, about 10 posts up I corrected my mistake. I accidentally substituted the F7F Tigercat for the F5F Skyrocket.

Only 2 Skyrockets were built where there were numerous F7Fs.

You know the real b*tch of it is the museum I work at has neither airplane.

http://www.cradleofaviation.org

It's not entirely dedicated to Grumman, but most of the collection celebrates their work. And we do have the oldest surviving F-14.

Meanwhile....Whats going on at the CON. We got a gag order over there or what???

[TBolt A-10]

Originally posted by Muckmaw1
Meanwhile....Whats going on at the CON. We got a gag order over there or what???

I was wondering the same thing.  I honestly thought that we'd see Ki-84's and Liberators in the sky already.  

And, because Superfly announced the Liberator prior to the Con, I've been hoping for some really HOT announcement on Con weekend.  That's why this hook...err...thread caught my attention.

[Rafe35]

Goodyear F2G-1/-2 Super Corsair would have made in production earlier, but the problems went around and only 10/15 F2Gs were made during WWII.  If the WWII would last longer, F2Gs production probably around 300+ in Late 1945 and Early 1946.

Then again, F8F Bearcat is better than Super Corsair.

[Irocz]

I have it from a good source that the new Grumman bird is a perk bird to help beat those pesky LA-7's

Now that would be the ultimate revenge on the LA7s, being able to shoot down a LA7 150 NM away.

[FiLtH]

In the end...is it planes that saw alot of combat that were merely variants of what we have/ planes that saw alot of combat that were'nt sexy, or....

 planes that stand out or are interesting even if they saw little to no combat that we'd like to see in here?