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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2004, 03:35:03 PM »
it allways reminds me of a latin phrase I read in the book "digital fortress"

Of course I cant remember the latin part but in english it was something like "who will police the police"

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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2004, 06:59:42 PM »
Loser.....2nd admendment.

 Sorry guy but it was said by Thomas Jefferson and Good ole Ben Franklin among others a looonnnngggg [long] time ago.

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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2004, 12:57:44 AM »
A patched ball from a .577 cal Enfield can easily hit a bowling pin at 200 yards with a little practice.



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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2004, 01:19:14 AM »
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun.

While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind.

Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind.

Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walk."

-- Encyclopedia of Thomas Jefferson
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2004, 03:29:52 AM »
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"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun.

While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind.

Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind.

Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walk."

-- Encyclopedia of Thomas Jefferson
That's nice, but how did people get by in the days before guns were invented? The Romans were somewhat "focussed", and had no guns.

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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2004, 05:30:55 AM »
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That's nice, but how did people get by in the days before guns were invented? The Romans were somewhat "focussed", and had no guns.


 The crossbow. I had you a picture of a Roman crossbow fibula from the 3-4th century, but since image posting is down you may use your imagination. :D
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2004, 07:00:18 AM »
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it allways reminds me of a latin phrase I read in the book "digital fortress"

Of course I cant remember the latin part but in english it was something like "who will police the police"


Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

"But who will guard the guards?"

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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2004, 08:29:45 AM »
They probably went walking with sword, spear or bow Beetle.

I was just pointing out that it's pretty obvious what our Founders intended by the 2nd. They wrote enough about their thoughts on guns in general to make it clear to anyone with an open mind and an average intellect.
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2004, 08:32:38 AM »
I would think that spear or sword handling would have been a very useful skill back then.... course ya bot to have one and most tyrants took em away from conquered nations...

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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2004, 09:40:42 AM »
Somehow I picture you Lazs as having a large hammer or '69 Chevelle 396 SS Coupe as your weapon of choice.



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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2004, 10:57:05 AM »
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They probably went walking with sword, spear or bow Beetle.
The origin of why we drive on the left in Britain is that historically, wayfarers passed other wayfarers on a reciprocal heading in each other's 3 o'clock position, not the 9 o'clock. That was so that the wayfarer's sword hand would be on the same side as any potential aggressor. (Too bad if you're left handed) And the custom of shaking hands as part of a greeting was to show that your sword hand was free and not bearing a weapon.

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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2004, 11:07:57 AM »
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

"But who will guard the guards?"


YUP that's it....thanks


beet1e those are the same origins as the modern day salute.  Raising of the right hand was a sign of respect and a show of none aggression IE unarmed

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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2004, 11:18:51 AM »
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Insurance, not willing to provide insurance but still want us to pay them...

Something like that..

I dunno, I'm not the owner, but thats what he was saying..


in the NRA's defense ( no I don't give them any money, counter productive since it will just go directly o the GOP anyway), from an insurance/gun-safety standpoint re-enactors are a nightmare.

while I personally find it interesting, you are pointing firearms at things you don't want to see dead.
  you are using a gun for a toy (maybe 'prop' would be more accurate).
 while you aren't using live ammo, having a live round show up
where only blanks are expected isn't exactly un-heard of.
  even with blanks debris in the, barrel or on the wadding can be an effective if not efficient projectile.

I'd hope you could find insurance somewhere, but just trying to show you a few reasons why they might not provide it.

one question I have is how they make you pay them.  NRA can't force you to contribute, I f you don't think they are providing you with a useful service, don't pay.
  most ranges require membership, but that also comes with the insurance.  you shouldn't have a hard time arguing the point that if you are exempt from the NRA ins coverage, the range should exempt you from the NRA membership requirement.


btw- refusing to provide insurance isn't exactly screwing you, it's just not helping you out.

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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2004, 12:36:27 PM »
I left the NRA when I saw more money spent on junk mail postage than my yearly donation.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Stay thirsty my friends.

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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2004, 02:33:06 PM »
That's not a good enough reason RPM.

What if everyone left because of that.  Not much to be proud of.




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