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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2004, 12:30:57 AM »
Geez, you guys must have led a sheltered childhood...Chuck Jones? The guy never had an original idea, other than "How can I do this cheaper." He was the Pixar of his day.
Tex Avery was probably the most imaginative, original and over the top funny cartoonist of the Golden Age of animation. Unfortunately, he got lost in the shuffle at MGM.
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« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2004, 02:28:51 AM »
Gotta disagree about Chuck Jones. What he really excelled at was the subtlety with which he uses all the motions available to the creature on stage to express the situation. Chuck Jones at his best is Wile E. Coyote fiddling with a bear trap.
But his unit wasn't just Chuck Jones. Michael Maltese consistently developed some excellent dialog (which is brilliance of the duck/rabbit season) , and Maurice Noble's outrageous minimalist backgrounds are truly outstanding (later Road Runners, Duck Dodgers, and so on).  Of course, from the early fifties on, Milt Franklin took over the music for Chuck's unit, and he never had quite the repertoire that Carl Stalling did.  Anything Jones did before 1940 pretty much sucks though.

Tex Avery was just wild, and is rightly considered a true genius of the art; some of the best cartoons in absolute are his.

Bob Clampett comes close to capturing Tex's absurdity -- he did some real howlers before switching to television (first with a puppet show, then with "Cecil the Sea Sick Sea Serpent").

Frank Tashlin's limited animated oeuvre demonstrates a concern for rendering space and off-the-wall camera angles that makes for good cartoons, but also explains his successful transitiion to live-action films.

Friz Freleng's work is a little uneven. Sometimes he's uninspired -- like when he took the Jones Duck Season/Rabbit Season to the TV set for three in the fifties; but often it's high-quality, stripped-down gags with impeccable timing.

I always considered the Pixar of the Hollywood Cartoon to be the directorial teamof Hanna and Barbera; They work, while serviceable, is just uninspired; the only original touch they leave is a rather disturbing anal fixation.

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« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2004, 03:54:19 AM »
I have to agree with the Hanna-Barberra comment. Cartoon Network has gained access to some old H-B craptoons and recycled the animation with new absurd scripts. Sealab 2021 and Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law are truly inspired.

Jones' work just looked cheap and dumbed-down compared to the earlier productions done in the 40's and 50's. Look at what he did to Tom & Jerry. Fred Quimby must have been spinning in his grave.
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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2004, 04:03:17 AM »
Woah, hold on here.
Any Looney Toon produced between 1960 and 1962 needs to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis to see if it merits the name. Most don't.
No "looney toon" after 1962 merits the name.
In 1960 WB throttled the budget severely. In 1962 they sold the studio.  Friz Freleng and Depatie ran them for another 6 years or so, but without the budget or the teams involved.  Instead of a full orchestra you get Bill Lava on an accordian. Instead of real gags, you get Wily Coyote falling into the canyon over, and over, and over.


They heyday of the Hollywood Cartoon pretty much follows that of Film Noir (Think Maltese Falcon to Touch of Evil). Of course WB was a powerhouse in both; and you see WB properties (e.g., Bogey, Peter Lorre, Edward G.) appearing in WB CArtoons; The same musicians who did the soundtrack for the WB feature films did the cartoons.

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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2004, 04:13:25 AM »
Very true. I should have included that they were working within a profoundly reduced budget which had a devastating effect on artwork. That does not excuse the writing. At least they were not the 30 minute toy commercials disguised as cartoons that emerged after the 60's. I'll give Jones credit for that.
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« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2004, 04:24:37 AM »
Bugs bunny - with the wind blown hats flying around.  Anything with the Devil.

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« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2004, 04:26:50 PM »
I like all the ones mentioned from Looney Toons. Marvin is one of my favorite characters. I love it when he tries to blow up the Earth with the Illudium 235 destroyer. The Road Runner and Coyote were simply some of the best toons out there. They "made" Saturday morning.
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« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2004, 04:38:05 PM »
Probably the one where the coyote sets a piano to blow up on a certain key and the road runner keeps playing the song with the wrong note at that point. So finaly the coyote goes up and shushes him away and plays the song correclty and blows up.
I still have that tune in my head.