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Online Captain Virgil Hilts

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Kerry's plan for Iraq
« on: October 06, 2004, 08:03:49 AM »
Train Iraqis faster: Won't work, the current rate is approaching 25K every 90 days or so, including both police and military. All available candidates are being trained as fast as is possible with regards to effectively training humans to do a dangerous job. There are no more people to train, and no ways to train them faster.

Hold a "summit": :rolleyes: There are summits scheduled already. Summits are not a solution to the problem, they are a placebo. But in any event, they are already being held.

Get more countries involved: Germany, France, and Russia ain't coming. Not for Bush, and not for Kerry either. Stated plainly and publicly by Germany, France, and Russia. As much as they SUPPOSEDLY want Kerry to win, they say they are not coming even if he is elected. Wrong again.

More UN involvement: The UN already cut and ran once. They refused US security, and when they got blown up inspite of their own security, they left. If the UN brings enough personel to Iraq to make a significant contribution to the elections and rebuilding, they will again be a target. How long will they last this time? Not long. Oh well.

So much for Kerry's "plan". It is like everything else about Kerry, all rhetoric and zero substance. Kerry's entire campaign platform is nothing but rhetoric that is in direct conflict with everything he has done, everything he has stood for, and everything he has voted for in the last 30-40 years. But the Democrats say we should ignore his past and look to the future. His past is all you can judge him on. And there is no reason to expect him to change this late in the game.
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2004, 08:11:04 AM »
One of the oddest things I heard in the debate last night was when Edwards said  that he and Kerry would ship Iraqi army volunteers  out of the country and train them overseas.. If you are going to train a useful Iraqi army I'm guessing you need them in the tens of thousands if not a couple hundred thousand. I'm pretty sure that Edwards has not taken the cost of moving and housing all those men into account.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2004, 08:36:21 AM »
do they take the cost of anything they propose in account??

guess they are going to tax ppl making over 200k something like 75% in order to pay for everything AND lower the deficit
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2004, 02:53:44 PM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
do they take the cost of anything they propose in account??

guess they are going to tax ppl making over 200k something like 75% in order to pay for everything AND lower the deficit


One surefire result of a Kerry election:

Tax attorneys are going to be experiencing a rather large boom in billable hours. As the case has been and perhaps always will be, the richest of the rich will effectively hide their wealth, while those on the very edge of 'affluence', as defined by our tax brackets, will have to suffer the brunt of tax hikes made largely in gest.

I'm not a huge fan of either candidate, but then again, I'm not a big proponent of the bi-partisan system altogether (please feel free to bit my head off if this topic has been addressed ad-nauseum on these boards). Seems to me that the biggest difference between liberals and conservatives, these days at least, is the demographic to which they feel the need to pander to either get into or to retain office.

Is Bush really, in his heart, a religious fundamentalist? Is Kerry really a modern American Robin Hood? I think not. They're both just doing what it is in their nature to do, and in large part, what they must, in order to satisfy the political affiliations they've cultivated over the years. To criticize them for their individual stances is almost akin to getting mad at somebody because they were born to parents who were mean, or who smelled bad, or who painted their house orange.

Given the way modern we select our presidents, is it a mystery why so many choose who to vote for based on what that particular candidate can do for them? Most of us are born liberals, idealistic, empathetic, but at some point, having realized that we can't save the world, start shifting right.  

Merely reflections, gentlemen... Nothing new here.