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« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2004, 08:52:07 PM »
Gix, what does Bush having erred, in your opinion have to do w/ our conversation?  I'm not leading you anywhere with this debate. In other words, there is no:  "ah ha!  See I'm right, therefore"  coming from me.  I'm not trying to change your views, impose an opinion of any kind on you.. you are reading far more into this than what's going on.  There's nothing beneath the surface.

My point, and only point is that Bush didn't say "imminent threat", Edwards did.


I'm sorry for the insults, you didn't deserve them..... frustrated that you are guessing I'm setting you up for another point when I'm not.

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« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2004, 11:21:25 PM »
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My point, and only point is that Bush didn't say "imminent threat", Edwards did.

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Fair enough, sorry for any misunderstanding on my part. But the point that I was trying to make is that if Bush didn't say those exact words he and his administration certinly portrayed that image to the world before the war.



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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2004, 11:23:52 PM »
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I might have seen that written bout him a few times.. hehe


Psht, you three are just pissy because someone as simplistic as me can accurately label you for exactly what you are.

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« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2004, 11:29:49 PM »
Gix, I  agree w/  you.  There was a big to-do here in the States about exactly who used those exact words "Imminent threat".

Certainly the administration stated their case that Saddam was dangerous, then and not just in the future.

The WMD flap aside(as it turns out, terrible intel from several sources, including our own) I think Saddam was indeed a danger to world safety for his involvement and potential involvement w/ terrorists, to his neighboring countries, and to his own poeple. .  Not trying to pick a fight here if you disagree.


I wonder the following: Much of our intel came from Russia.  Now the Russians are pretty clever... did they get bad intel?  deliberately give us bad intel to induce us to oust Saddam?  deliberately give us bad intel so we would look foolish on a world scale?

No, I'm not blaming Russia for our definitive statements that WMD were present.  We said it, we took action based largely on it, ergo it is our fault.
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« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2004, 12:12:03 AM »
Actually I've always thought that blaming the intelligence is just an excuse. No WMD's were found so lets blame the intel. Seemed long ago that Bush wanted to pick a fight with Iraq and after 9/11 with WMD's he go it.

One wonders whether Bush and his administration actually looked at the intel with an open mind as to whether Sadam might have WMD"s or not. Or whether they just looked at the Intel to back up what they wanted.

Plus some of the intel that they used, like the Niger Uranium was so obviously fake one wonders how on earth it ever managed to make it to those that decide on these things in the first place.

I understand the points your making, just think there is alot more to it then the basic stories told to the press.



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« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2004, 12:16:32 AM »
Oh and as for Sadam being a regional threat, let alone a global threat. Sorry I strongly don't agree. :)

But that's a whole other thread and my girlfriend is getting crappy at me for replying as much as I do on here as it is. Though I guess that's why she's gone to her girlfriends for the weekend. :D



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« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2004, 11:10:00 AM »
hey.. she made you see the moore movie and a nicolas cage movie... you should dump her anyway.

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« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2004, 03:45:13 PM »
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hey.. she made you see the moore movie and a nicolas cage movie... you should dump her anyway.

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Yeah but she's 23 likes bikes,flying and other unmentionables so it's a tough choice to make.  :D



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