Author Topic: I dont like paying to be restricted (Read 1464 times)

Karnak · « **Reply #30 on:** October 21, 2004, 04:03:47 PM »

Greencloud,

I do sympathize. Unfortunately the situation had gotten to the point where people were not switching sides to balance it anymore and HiTech was forced to act to try to stem the flow.

First he tried using a carrot by making perk units cheaper and perks faster to get for the outnumbered side, but that didn't work. He was left with only the possibility of making people change sides by making them uncomfortable, e.g. he used a stick this time.

The fact that you, and many others, noticed this time shows that at the very least this method got people's attention.

The problem is that there is no solution that will both make people happy and solve the imbalance problem because as it was the people causing the imbalance problem, who were also the only people who could solve it, were quite happy with the status quo and people who were powerless to affect it were canceling their accounts.

Something had to be done. Was this the best option? I don't know, but I have not seen any other solutions proposed that would have been workable. All the alternatives I've seen focused on making sure the person posting the idea wasn't affected by it in any meaningful fashion. In other words solutions that would have no effect and would allow the status quo to continue along it's merry way.

Trippy · « **Reply #31 on:** October 21, 2004, 05:23:06 PM »

well greencloud, maybe you could suggest a way to keep the hoard from rolling other than the eny. hopefully the suggestion would not suk or be ghey

GreenCloud · « **Reply #32 on:** October 21, 2004, 09:11:28 PM »

Karnak..good post...I kind understand how that conclusion coudl happen..But I really cant beleive that they woudl lose customers for being outnumbered? wasnt that us..the Knights? I have flown knights for as long as I have been here..since AW3-MV died

i think the way it was is fine

Trippy...thats muy suggestion....

Soemtiems a country got steamrolled...soemtiem they didnt
Seems to me it hasnt stopped..

I guess I didnt play enuff to cry so much about being ubalanced...Im pretty sure .. I play plenty enuff...You cant really judge by my hours as I routinly did Bomer rusn to HQ fro 2 hours whiel doing other work around house. So it may say I yhave way too many hours..lolo

I would hope we could fly the planes that HTC crew has spent our money and there time on. its sad for me..

So thats my suggestion..go back to not taking away the planes they offer.

If not..I hope TOD coems out sooner then later..I will gladly beta
this one too

Love
BiGB
xoxo

dmdchief · « **Reply #33 on:** October 21, 2004, 10:58:23 PM »

I have supported Hitech in all of his patches and changes but when you cant take a plane with a value of less than 36 this is going way to far.

If I was just starting out in this game about 2 times of this and I would not even try to learn the game and stay in here trying to get better, it has gotten so frustrating I am having second thoughts about staying in the game myself, there is no telling how many would have staid in the game that didnt.

I like and respect Hitech, pyro, actually everyone over there but this is one time I highly disagree with their thinking.

MOSQ · « **Reply #34 on:** October 22, 2004, 12:10:21 AM »

Tonight, and the last several nights, are proof positive the eny balancer does not work. The Rooks were out numbered by 50% by the Bish and 100% by the Nits (again). We were getting steamrolled by both, but most of all the Nits. The Nit Eny limiter hit 30+ yet again, but made NO DIFFERENCE ! They just bring gobs of HVY P-47 jabos and C205 escorts. I didn't see any Nits switching sides to fly P-51s.

All it does is !@#$ customers off.

A Different solution has to be found.

Pongo · « **Reply #35 on:** October 22, 2004, 01:11:32 AM »

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Originally posted by dmdchief
I have supported Hitech in all of his patches and changes but when you cant take a plane with a value of less than 36 this is going way to far.

If I was just starting out in this game about 2 times of this and I would not even try to learn the game and stay in here trying to get better, it has gotten so frustrating I am having second thoughts about staying in the game myself, there is no telling how many would have staid in the game that didnt.

I like and respect Hitech, pyro, actually everyone over there but this is one time I highly disagree with their thinking.

switch friggen sides. DUH

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #36 on:** October 22, 2004, 10:16:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
switch friggen sides. DUH

Pongo,
maybe it is that simple for you, and for others. as for DmdChief, he is a truckdriver who has to take his lapttop and joystick and find a place to plug it in to get internet services, then once he logs on his time is short, and he is only here to fly with his friends/squad....with his limited time of maybe 2 hours at most, most times 30 minutes......he feels he should not have to switch.......

when he ups to fly and while he is up the ENy increases 20, 24, 27, 30, 31, 33, 34, 36 when he lands ( or gets shot down) he is with out his ride, at 36 ENY he is with out alot of rides. Although last night he did trade down for a lesser planeto fly inwhich when he returned to base that plane had been gobbled up by the ENY too

so what you are saying is screw all the friendships, squads created, and everyone fly for themselves.....(some of these squads have flown together for 10+ years)

the ENY has never bothered me, last night was the first time I was unable to fly a F4U1D, so I traded for the F4U-1 and nailed 6 baddys real quick , heck was no biggie

I never once complained about being outnumbered, I would log if I didn't want to be HOUNDED by 30 rooks to 2 Knights, best thing would be to drop the ENY, let all the moving squads go back to where they were to start with.and let all these formed squads fly with their squadmates

Urchin · « **Reply #37 on:** October 22, 2004, 10:33:48 AM »

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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
Pongo,

I never once complained about being outnumbered, I would log if I didn't want to be HOUNDED by 30 rooks to 2 Knights, best thing would be to drop the ENY, let all the moving squads go back to where they were to start with.and let all these formed squads fly with their squadmates

How many people do you think logged for good?

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #38 on:** October 22, 2004, 10:40:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
How many people do you think logged for good?

I do not know Urchin, but there was a heck of alot more people flying/playing before the ENY was instituted into the mix. and everyone was able to fly with whom they wanted too

now everyone suggest forget about flying with squads and/or friends fly for yourself and country hop at will........this last part has had a big impact on the numbers in my opinion, far more than the way it was before its invention......

but heck it is just my opinion, you know we all got 1

Trippy · « **Reply #39 on:** October 22, 2004, 01:23:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
How many people do you think logged for good?

yes, i think most people who left, left before the eny factor was put in place. in fact some may go as far to say that it is the reason why eny was placed.

Furball · « **Reply #40 on:** October 22, 2004, 01:29:01 PM »

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Originally posted by GreenCloud
I dont like when I cant fly a pe38 ..And it is very rare..except when a few squaddies are on who liek to fly the 38..

But..we can fly a Typhoon.

Thsi does not make sense to me.
I dotn agree with the enemy plane value thing..I never had a problem with what people fly or when they fly them

It just really sucks to have these planes here and not be able to use them.

We all hav ethings outside this game. When i have time ..an dit happens to be my friends are on..I hate not being able to fly soemthing all the same..That we like

It has now happned 3 times that no P38s..but we could fly Typ...

I dont Like it.

I request a fix please.

Love
BiGB
xoxo

i furball, on behalf of the Aces High community, have this message..

"screw you! you silly MAW! who cares what you think! MAW's have no rights!

thankyou, that is all.

SlapShot · « **Reply #41 on:** October 22, 2004, 03:01:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
How many people do you think logged for good?

Better yet ... who gives a rats arse ?

Karnak · « **Reply #42 on:** October 22, 2004, 03:10:35 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
Better yet ... who gives a rats arse ?

HTC, as it is their business and fewer customers means less income?

SlapShot · « **Reply #43 on:** October 22, 2004, 03:25:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
HTC, as it is their business and fewer customers means less income?

LOL ... I have to agree ... if it were in the 100s, but I would say that maybe 20 (at a max) truely left strictly because of the ENY.

Others who did leave, only used it as an excuse to justify their departure and give them something solid to stamp their feet about as they left.

I think that HTC asked themselves the question ...

How many will leave if we let the balance problem persist ? vs. How many will leave if we attempt and implement a fix ?

We know which one they chose which netted them a positve result. You know ... the lesser of two evils.

Karnak · « **Reply #44 on:** October 22, 2004, 03:46:11 PM »

SlapShot,

I thought you were saying who cares about how many left due to the perpetual imbalance, the players I understood to be where Urchin's comment was aimed.

I think we can all agree that the number of those players was likely higher than 20 as HiTech felt the need to act on it.