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Offline RTStuka

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« on: October 20, 2004, 08:45:20 PM »
Ok I need the experts opinions here, I have been shooting a Minolta X-700 for the past 8 years. I absolutly loved the camera and was able to achieve shots with it that people who spend 1200 dollars for their cameras get. Well its at the shop right now for the first time and I could be looking at a $150 bill to fix it. Since the camera is out dated paying that price to fix it seems crazy. Now is where I need the almight experts of the boards opinions, I am looking for a moderatly priced camera that will get the job done in the field for me. $350 is about my stopping point and I am willing too buy used, It has been so long since I have been in the market for a camera I dont know whats out there. I have considered just picking up another minolta but my only complaint is the lack of lenses and accessories compared to Nikon or Canon. Any suggetions would be greatly appreciated and thank you in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2004, 08:53:09 PM »
If it takes amazing shots, what makes it outdated?

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2004, 08:58:45 PM »
Are you talking film or digital?

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2004, 09:04:52 PM »
I had one of those for about a decade.  Earned a degree in photograpy with it.  Now I have a cannon S400; I love it more than any film camera I've ever had.  10X the versatility of film.  

The S500 sells for around $400 on sale all over.

Film sucks.  Go digital.

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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2004, 09:10:38 PM »
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If it takes amazing shots, what makes it outdated?



I know what your saying Nash but I was just curious what is out there today, like I said i have not been keeping up with SLR cameras so im not sure whats new on the market, technology wise.


Eskimo2,
  I was thinking digital but since my dad works for Kodak as a researcher in the Film division I think I would be disowned if I went digital instead. haha just kidding but for some reason I have always loved the film format, I should start looking digital though, epecially since I dont use a darkroom like I use too anyways.

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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2004, 09:23:44 PM »
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I know what your saying Nash but I was just curious what is out there today, like I said i have not been keeping up with SLR cameras so im not sure whats new on the market, technology wise.


Eskimo2,
  I was thinking digital but since my dad works for Kodak as a researcher in the Film division I think I would be disowned if I went digital instead. haha just kidding but for some reason I have always loved the film format, I should start looking digital though, epecially since I dont use a darkroom like I use too anyways.


The cost is next to nothing compared to film.  My "darkroom" is right in the middle of my living room, in fact I'm using it to write now.  I can do much more with my photo editing program than I could ever do in the darkroom; and faster, cheaper, more reliable, less space, no $100 trips to the photo supply shop.

I truly understand what is so cool about film, but trust me, digital is so much cooler and versital.

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2004, 09:29:03 PM »
It's the software that makes it versatile. But you can do the exact same versatility with film. Ya just need to scan it is all.

I have seen some great digital photography....

However, if I turn up at a shoot and find that the photog brought his digital, he'd be fired.

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2004, 09:55:27 PM »
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It's the software that makes it versatile. But you can do the exact same versatility with film. Ya just need to scan it is all.

I have seen some great digital photography....

However, if I turn up at a shoot and find that the photog brought his digital, he'd be fired.


Hardly, what's the max frames of a roll of film these days 36?

I have a 4 Gig Microdrive and take aboot 1600 pics in the largest Jpeg format before i have to dump to a digital wallet, about 650 in Raw format.

Not to mention i can go from 100 ISO to 3200 ISO with a flick of a button. I can delete pics on to go yada...yada.

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2004, 10:15:08 PM »
When the guy dumps and replaces film, you are begging for a coffee break anyways... and they do it in the blink of an eye.

Digital is getting mighty close, but it isn't there yet. You can't capture in the same way on digital as you can with film.

So okay, but... yeah... On a certain level, digital is more 'versatile' (even though I'm not sure that's the right word for it).

But when quality has to be the goal, you are going to go with film, hands down.

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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2004, 10:25:40 PM »
I have to agree with nash on this one, I think you get more control still with film. Although digital is getting very close and you do alot with the computer today I just dont think it captures colors and the crispness of film as well. Although 90% of people who shoot probably would achieve the same quality with either formats.

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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2004, 10:35:49 PM »
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Although 90% of people who shoot probably would achieve the same quality with either formats.


Yer exactly right. Yet those 90% don't take pictures for a living.

For those 90% that don't, I would completely suggest a digital camera. It's very close, and only the real pro's know how to make film cameras rock in ways that digitals can't.

That being said.... I wouldn't be suprised at all if in a few years I would fire guys for bringing film cameras to a shoot.

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2004, 12:33:40 AM »
Canon's new EOS-1  MARK II is said to be better than 35mm film resolution. It's also about 8 thousand dollars.

I guess anything digital will always have it's "color", just like digital music recording does.

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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2004, 12:35:48 AM »
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"...just like digital music recording does."


Heh, great analogy.