Author Topic: Nice Job Bushie! (Read 4222 times)

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #30 on:** October 25, 2004, 11:35:06 AM »

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I don't think so. I blame those willing to exercise no restraint in ridiculing the president in pursuit of their various other political agendas. It's not new but it has gotten ever uglier.

lmao

AKIron · « **Reply #31 on:** October 25, 2004, 11:35:43 AM »

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Is this murderous enemy your referring to AQ or the people from Iraqi, fighting for Iraqi in Iraqi??

Are you truly incapable of seeing the wider picture of the middle east? Iraq would never have been invaded if Saddam had not built up a huge army (4th largest in the world) and begun a campaign to conquer the middle east. Saddam hated the US for thwarting his dreams. It was only a matter of time before he was allowed to rebuild and resume his conquest. Of course he would have (if he hadn't already) supported those intent on destroying our way of life.

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #32 on:** October 25, 2004, 11:39:15 AM »

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Are you truly incapable of seeing the wider picture of the middle east? Iraq would never have been invaded if Saddam had not built up a huge army (4th largest in the world) and begun a campaign to conquer the middle east. Saddam hated the US for thwarting his dreams. It was only a matter of time before he was allowed to rebuild and resume his conquest. Of course he would have (if he hadn't already) supported those intent on destroying our way of life.

Ya.. I see a big picture.. In my big picture hate for America has been magnified 1000s of times over..

Let me ask you a question Iron.. When do you see America winning the War on Terrorism??

AKIron · « **Reply #33 on:** October 25, 2004, 11:41:29 AM »

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Now this almost made me laugh.

So... the real problem with the division in this Country is that there are people who don't agree with the President.

Got it.

We are at war and Bush did not start it. The picture froggie posted would give the appearance to all of the world that Americans have no confidence in their leadership. This is very similar to what Jane Fonda and so many others did during the Vietnam war. Need I remind you that we lost that one?

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #34 on:** October 25, 2004, 11:54:13 AM »

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We are at war and Bush did not start it. The picture froggie posted would give the appearance to all of the world that Americans have no confidence in their leadership. This is very similar to what Jane Fonda and so many others did during the Vietnam war. Need I remind you that we lost that one?

Clearly Iraqi sank our battleship before we invaded. Or did they threating to? Gee, I cant remember. But I am only seeing American soldiers dying in Iraqi?? That is not the war on terror..

Mini D · « **Reply #35 on:** October 25, 2004, 11:58:59 AM »

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So you are saying Bush subjected his war stratigies to a cost effective program?? Wow, how nice of him!! And I bet the troops on the gound love him for it..

Not at all. That's all you talking right now.

I'm saying that if he'd spent more to attempt to secure something, we'd be hearing about that instead.

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380tons of HE was not looted.. What makes it even a worse outcry is it had to be an organized group that took these explosives and we had no one around to even have a clue about it..

What's even more rediculous is thinking that they were there when the bombing started. Trains were running to Syria every day before the attack.

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How is a president going to goto war over WMDs but not send enough troops to contain and protect these WMDs caches from falling into the wrong hands?? Good thing we had enough troops there to protect the oil fields! They could have blown up the oil fields with those explosives!

I've got a tip for you... THEY WERE IN THE WRONG HANDS ALREADY. Maybe you could identify the wrong hands they've now fallen into and scream about what an outrage it is, then scream some more when we take them back from the "wrong hands" you claim we should have never let them fall into.

It's also important to remember that Suddam Husseign would not have given these explosives to terrorists. There is absolutely no way that would have happened. So you can rest assured, that wherever they are, they are in non threatening hands. Afterall... you've said so.

AKIron · « **Reply #36 on:** October 25, 2004, 11:59:33 AM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Clearly Iraqi sank our battleship before we invaded. Or did they threating to? Gee, I cant remember. But I am only seeing American soldiers dying in Iraqi?? That is not the war on terror..

You are either unwilling or incapable of seeing the bigger picture. I'm just sorry that you and those like you won't understand who is to blame when our shopping malls and corner restaurants are frequently bombed by militant Muslims.

Mini D · « **Reply #37 on:** October 25, 2004, 12:02:00 PM »

BTW... doesn't the fact that these explosives were just "reported" but never actually found after the war imply that they never actually existed?

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #38 on:** October 25, 2004, 12:04:09 PM »

There are so many things in this thread that make no sense, I figured I'd post something that did.

-SW

parker00 · « **Reply #39 on:** October 25, 2004, 12:04:29 PM »

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We are at war and Bush did not start it. The picture froggie posted would give the appearance to all of the world that Americans have no confidence in their leadership. This is very similar to what Jane Fonda and so many others did during the Vietnam war. Need I remind you that we lost that one?

I would agree that Bush did not start the war with Afghanistan, but Iraq DID NOT attack us. The Vietnam war was not lost by the soldiers it was lost in Washington because we didn't have the proper leadership. Yes you are correct that this very similar to Vietnam and yes many Americans have lost confidence in their president, but does that mean we are supposed to ignore the fact that we have no faith what so ever in him so that the world will see us as united. I thought we didn't care what the outside world thought of us or are we caring on this issue and no other.

68Parker

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #40 on:** October 25, 2004, 12:06:08 PM »

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Not at all. That's all you talking right now.

no, that was you talking in your post about some looter making off with all those explosives in the back of his mercedees..

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I'm saying that if he'd spent more to attempt to secure something, we'd be hearing about that instead.

Which is a farcry better than our troops being killed on the side of the road from these explosives, wouldnt you think?

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I've got a tip for you... THEY WERE IN THE WRONG HANDS ALREADY. Maybe you could identify the wrong hands they've now fallen into and scream about what an outrage it is, then scream some more when we take them back from the "wrong hands" you claim we should have never let them fall into.

Understand, I know this. Of course all weapons were in the wrong hands.

I'm referring to the supposive WMDs. What if they were really there, we had TOO FEW troops to secure them even if we found them. Before we got there we had TOO few troops. If WMDs were indeed spread all over the country there would have been nothing we could have done to stop them from being looted. As is demonstrated by America's inability to secure the non-WMDs..

texace · « **Reply #41 on:** October 25, 2004, 12:08:42 PM »

Yep, it's all our fault that weapons are being looted and civilians and soldiers alike are being killed in Iraq by weapons that American troops obviously couldn't secure.

Thanks...your insight has opened my mind. I think I'll go join the Army right now...

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #42 on:** October 25, 2004, 12:09:54 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
You are either unwilling or incapable of seeing the bigger picture. I'm just sorry that you and those like you won't understand who is to blame when our shopping malls and corner restaurants are frequently bombed by militant Muslims.

I'll blame these war mongers we have in power ATM. Bush's invasion has placed the 'muslim cause' on the doorstep of 25million more people.. I wonder how many terrorist this false invasion has produced?

I find that YOU are the one unwilling or incapable of seeing the bigger picture Iron. Winning the war on terrorism is not possible. You kill one, you make 2 more..

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #43 on:** October 25, 2004, 12:10:45 PM »

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Originally posted by texace
Yep, it's all our fault that weapons are being looted and civilians and soldiers alike are being killed in Iraq by weapons that American troops obviously couldn't secure.

Thanks...your insight has opened my mind. I think I'll go join the Army right now...

Good for you!! They need you!

AKIron · « **Reply #44 on:** October 25, 2004, 12:11:47 PM »

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Iraq DID NOT attack us.

68Parker

Neither did Germany.