Author Topic: The election in CA. (Read 1040 times)

rpm · « **Reply #15 on:** November 02, 2004, 11:51:07 AM »

DNA samples will eventually be required for a driver's license. Of course it will be in the name of "security"or "fraud prevention". Fingerprints are already required nationwide and DNA is the fingerprint of the future. They tried to require retina scans but settled on fingerprints.

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 02, 2004, 01:09:50 PM »

Voted with MT on everything except....

61
63
66
67
71

guess he never met a tax he didn't like or a criminal.

lazs

-MZ- · « **Reply #17 on:** November 02, 2004, 01:46:53 PM »

59 Access to Government Information - No
60 Primary Elections - No
60A Surplus State Property - No
61 Children's Hospital Projects - Yes
62 Primary Elections - Yes
63 Mental Health Services Expansion and Funding - Yes
64 Limitations on Enforcement of Unfair Business Competition Laws - No
65 Local Government Funds and Revenues - Yes
66 Limitations on "Three Strikes" Law - Yes
67 Emergency and Medical Services - Yes
68 Tribal Gaming Compacts - No
69 DNA Samples - No
70 Tribal Gaming Compacts - No
71 Stem Cell Research - Yes
72 Health Care Coverage Requirements - Yes

The reason I didn't like the DNA one was because eventually people will have to give samples who aren't convicted of anything. They should have left it up to a judge, like a search warrent.

lazs2 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 02, 2004, 01:59:02 PM »

feel a little better.... only agreed with mz on a couple.

lazs

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 02, 2004, 02:01:30 PM »

I voted no on anything that is going to cost tax payers money. With the state this state is in, voting for ANYTHING that cost more money is stupid.

Sandman · « **Reply #20 on:** November 02, 2004, 02:02:17 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I voted no on anything that is going to cost tax payers money. With the state this state is in, voting for ANYTHING that cost more money is stupid.

I won't vote until after I get off work, but that's my plan as well.

lazs2 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 02, 2004, 02:15:34 PM »

and... a "surcharge" is a tax. I would vote for a bill that made mz the only person to have to pay for it tho.

lazs

wulfie · « **Reply #22 on:** November 02, 2004, 02:45:12 PM »

Hey CA. guys...how are things in the most beautiful State in the Nation?

MT - I think the vote on limiting '3 Strikes' was a mistake. Here's a good writeup on it - tell me if anything youn read in the writeup surprises you (for the record I probably would have voted 'yes' if I hadn't read this summary)?

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005816

Also - for Lazs - Horowitz puts the opposition to shame by refusing to pull Andrew Sullivan's Op/Ed on why he supports Kerry now from Front Page Magazine (what are the odds of a pro-Bush Op/Ed being displayed anywhere on Moveon.org I wonder?

). Here is his explanation why, and his theory on why those who play partisan politics in time of war should be considered traitors (Rabid Bush haters this means you).

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15756

If I don't chat with you guys again for awhile 'Happy Thanksgiving' in advance.

Mike/wulfie

-MZ- · « **Reply #23 on:** November 02, 2004, 03:28:10 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
and... a "surcharge" is a tax. I would vote for a bill that made mz the only person to have to pay for it tho.

lazs

I only wish I could be forced pay the Prop 63 tax on 'annual incomes over $1 million'.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 02, 2004, 03:34:56 PM »

59 y - Transparency = Good
60 y - Could cancel 62
60a y - Lord knows we need the money.
61 n - I like the way the LP site put it, "Not a proper function of government."
62 n - Would result in less diversity on ballots.
63 n - We are already taxed too heavily.
64 y - Lawsuits are killing this country.
65 y - More power to local governments.
66 y - Too much victimless "crime".
67 n - No more taxes pls.
68 n - I don't trust casino people.
69 n - Big Brother
70 n - Don't trust 'em.
71 n - None of the government's business.
72 n - Would be final blow to state's economy.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 02, 2004, 03:43:02 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Why not?

Additionally, starting in 2009:
adults arrested for or charged with any felony offense

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 02, 2004, 03:54:25 PM »

I gotta admit the props are entertaining. I know I am basically disenfranchised in the Presidential and Senatorial elections, but on all this little stuff we can all make a difference, and it gives me something to study.

mora · « **Reply #27 on:** November 02, 2004, 03:57:51 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
71 n - None of the government's business.

lazs2 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 02, 2004, 04:51:36 PM »

mora thinks all business is government business..

I disagree on the 3 stikes one and on DNA... I can't imagine anyone convicted of three felonies in a row not being a career criminal waiting to screw up someones life. and.... DNA... it's just the new fingerprint... it might even get some guys out of being arrested wrongfully.

mz... a lot of the things you are voting for cost me money and I sure don't make a mill a year... I would vote that you alone pay for all of em if we have to have em tho.

lazs

jigsaw · « **Reply #29 on:** November 02, 2004, 05:00:21 PM »

The DNA and Stem Cell research are prime examples of my fundamental beef with the government.

Vote yes, no, or whatever. They're both going to happen.

If DNA doesn't pass, they'll bring it to fruition under the guise of "security" of some type.

If Stem Cell doesn't pass, they'll either do research offshore so it's not "U.S." research or they'll help fund another country's research in order to get data.