So are Rooks the most timid country?

[LazerTED]

Thats a pretty big assumption when you say somebody likes to run because of the plane they fly.

You'd be suprised what I've seen Urchin do in what you consider a plane used for running.

[SFCHONDO]

Good God, All counties are basically the same. They all have timid fliers, lame fliers, alt fliers, Great fliers, etc etc... No one country has a monopoly on any one behavior.
Saw some post the other day stating ROOKS are the only ones that fly around there base at 15k and how lame that was. That crap is so funny, that same nite I up, go to a Knit field, Gee...Guess what I saw; 10 knits over there field at 18-20K.
To catagorize any one country as being dominate in any one behavior is dumb.

[Shane]

Originally posted by XrightyX
Urchin,
while your K/D is impressive (the only stat I consider to be a worthy indicator of pilot skill) and I respect you as a pilot...

ur kidding!!  it's not an indicator of skill, it's an indicator of self-preservation, taking advantage of other's hard work, and vulching ability.


K/S would be a much better indicator, of effectiveness at least. we'll discount K/T since it's too big a variable.

but in all honesty, there's not one stat or set of stats that accurately refelects one's "skill" since skill itself can mean several things to several people.  which is why you want to focus on "effectiveness" or "impact" against the baddies.

example:  based on 10 sorties, player A has 10/2 for a 5:1 k/d, but only a 1:1 for k/s. player B has a 18/10 for a 1.8:1 k/d but a k/s of 1.8:1. so which player is the most "effective"? you *can* factor in K/T as an indicator of effectiveness as well.  Gunnery% is only an indicator important to one's own self since ammo is basically unlimited on a global scale.

[SFCHONDO]

I'd have to agree with Shane on this. Stats mean pretty much nada. Way to many variables. Each indicator can reflect so many different things. It's all about how that particular pilot is flying, what type of battles he is in. Whether he is upping capped bases getting vulched 5 times before he actually get up to kill 3 guys. Is he flying with several wingies plinking guys as there engaged...so on and so forth.

Most people after flying in this game for a few months know who the good sticks are by reputation and don't even bother worring about what there stats reflect.

To me you could be the best stick in the game, but if all you do when you die is call people names or have 5000 reasons why you died (i.e. Lame Gangers, lucky moron etc) then no matter how good they are, There just inmature punks. Besides: NO ONE CARES HOW YOU DIED!!!!

Bottom line is, this is a Game and in the big scheme of life it really doesn't matter how good you are, as long as your having fun playing the game.

[Apar]

For instance, most anyone who flies LW is timid by default. "Fighting" a run09 or run90 is about as exciting as picking your teeth.

I'm hurt !



Dutchie

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Stats mean pretty much nada.

Bottom line is, this is a Game and in the big scheme of life it really doesn't matter how good you are, as long as your having fun playing the game.

BULLSEYE........

[Stang]

Of all the stats, and knowing who the good sticks are, I've noticed the best have the highest combination of k/s and k/t.  Although sometimes k/t is harder to keep up depending on what plane they fly.  But k/s is ALWAYS high, meaning the PWN3D ALL OF YOU!  (except maybe the 5 guys that ran and came back to gang bang them)  

[TequilaChaser]

stats do not tell you what type of fighting is going on, whether it be 1 vs 1 or 4 vs 1, or vulching or 10 to 3, etc..........

so stats really have no ability to judge anybodys skill, it just tells how sucessful one might be as in killing planes and landing kills, it does not tell you how they got all them kills or anything of the sort....

and as we all know anyone can manipulate the stats in every category....

I am not saying anyone does this, am just saying it can be done......

[jamusta]

Originally posted by XrightyX
Urchin,

while your K/D is impressive (the only stat I consider to be a worthy indicator of pilot skill) and I respect you as a pilot...

All I have to say is "SHADUP" you big whiner.  Claiming that a country typifies one sort of behavior or another is the oldest, most pathetic whine in this game.  

You say that ' "Fighting" a run09 or run90 is about as exciting as picking your teeth?'

Well, I hope no one looks at your stats for the past few months...lots of kills in ponies, D40s, 190s, 109s and a few in  Ta152s.  You like the "running" planes don't you?

As I've said, it seems like you are a decent pilot, but judging by your choice of planes, you like to have the altitude advantage and to dictate the terms of the fight.  Don't get pissed if Rooks (or any country for that matter) decide to use alt against you.

In fact, you should be flattered.  Your skill in battle must precede you forcing Rooks to flee the other way in search of more "lame" kills.

UH OHHH SOMEONE IS IN TROUBLE NOW!!!!

You obviously never fought Urchin before....

[Ack-Ack]

It's already a proven fact that the majority of the Rookies are closet members of the limp wristed Rainbow Warrior squadron.  

Probably explains why I fight the Bishops more often then not.


ack-ack

[Pongo]

bull hocky.
If K/D is an indicator of vulching it is a trivial indicator compared to k/s and k/t .
Especially in that a person can choose to fight jabo all the time and just pick fighter when they are going to a vulch.

None of the stats mean anything, the situation of the kill and the plane flown by both sides  is not recorded and that is the only way you can know how much skill is attributed to a kill or a hit % or landing without dieing.

If you see someone with a high fighter score you can be sure its someone who at least wont make very stupid mistakes and someone who you dont want to give a free shot at your plane.
But other then that. The most dangerous guys in the game do not show it with score normally. Cause its not what they are trying to do.

You dont get good at really turning the tables on people unless you make a habit of getting into bad situations. You will not develop a good score in the game getting yourself in very bad situations.The best fighter guys in the game are very dangerous when they look like they are in trouble. They use SA to avoid hits that others will take, they use familierity with a certain aircraft and gun package to get hits others would miss.
They are amongst us.

[TequilaChaser]

who are you directing this at Pongo?  who said K/D is an indicator of vulching? I missed this somewhere........

[XrightyX]

Originally posted by Pongo
bull hocky.
If K/D is an indicator of vulching it is a trivial indicator compared to k/s and k/t .
Especially in that a person can choose to fight jabo all the time and just pick fighter when they are going to a vulch.

None of the stats mean anything, the situation of the kill and the plane flown by both sides  is not recorded and that is the only way you can know how much skill is attributed to a kill or a hit % or landing without dieing.

If you see someone with a high fighter score you can be sure its someone who at least wont make very stupid mistakes and someone who you dont want to give a free shot at your plane.
But other then that. The most dangerous guys in the game do not show it with score normally. Cause its not what they are trying to do.

You dont get good at really turning the tables on people unless you make a habit of getting into bad situations. You will not develop a good score in the game getting yourself in very bad situations.The best fighter guys in the game are very dangerous when they look like they are in trouble. They use SA to avoid hits that others will take, they use familierity with a certain aircraft and gun package to get hits others would miss.
They are amongst us.

Crap, I did forget the whole vulching factor....

But, I do like to look k/d ratio.   Okay, it sort of shows how much trouble a person gets into (or stays out of)...or how much vulching they do...which ever, whatever, who cares I guess.  

Edit:  Read Shane's and other's posts

Fair enough (on stats, etc)...my point was that Urchin seems to be a good pilot who knows how to play the game--i.e. how not to die and how to kill others.  

With his experience he should at least know that having an alt advantage and running away from someone with superior alt/E does not = limp wristed wussiness.  Just means you don't want to die.

[Pongo]

Originally posted by TequilaChaser
who are you directing this at Pongo?  who said K/D is an indicator of vulching? I missed this somewhere........

shane
"ur kidding!! it's not an indicator of skill, it's an indicator of self-preservation, taking advantage of other's hard work, and vulching ability.


K/S would be a much better indicator, of effectiveness at least. we'll discount K/T since it's too big a variable.

"

[aztec]

Stinky bait Urchin