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Offline Ack-Ack

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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2004, 09:15:53 PM »
Bah!  They finally decided to revise the P-38 now that I've stopped playing.




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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2004, 06:40:46 AM »
Well, this is a good reason for me to resubscribe. :D

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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2004, 09:32:08 AM »
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One other bit of news unrelated to the patch is that the P-38 is currently undergoing renovation. Any skins created for the current P-38 will be made obsolete when the new model is released in the next version.


pls hitech don't waste ur time on that stupid P38

It's ony flown by account sluts and other stupid not to mention street scum.

why not modell another FW or 109


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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2004, 10:51:09 AM »
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Bah!  They finally decided to revise the P-38 now that I've stopped playing.




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lol  My thoughts too.. If they do that, I just might have to download the last update... the new one too i suppose..

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2004, 11:52:12 AM »
I just reread Pyro's update, and I'm thinking now there is a difference between the upcoming "patch" and the next "version".    So now I'm not expecting a new P-38 in a couple days.

Anyone else read it that way?

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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2004, 12:05:54 PM »
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Originally posted by oboe
I just reread Pyro's update, and I'm thinking now there is a difference between the upcoming "patch" and the next "version".    So now I'm not expecting a new P-38 in a couple days.

Anyone else read it that way?


Yep.  

But I think the idea that the 38 is getting worked on, even for the new version down the line, got folks blood pumping.

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2004, 01:01:43 PM »
ummmmm mmmm... another big USAAF bird to shoot down. Bring it on. :D
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2004, 01:48:45 PM »
it will be the same p38modle just reworked..im sure

we dont need any more american birds especialy somthing pig ugly like the 38

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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2004, 02:35:08 PM »
we should have an AH beauty pagent, There would be a "Lightening" storm.  :cool:

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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2004, 02:39:47 PM »
I smell some "veteran" whining involved here. Wish I could fly that damn thing lol

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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2004, 05:53:33 PM »
Guppy, if they were to model an early P-38, would it basically be a hack job of the current  L?

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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2004, 06:56:39 PM »
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it will be the same p38modle just reworked..im sure

we dont need any more american birds especialy somthing pig ugly like the 38


P-38? Ugly?!?

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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2004, 07:26:37 PM »
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Guppy, if they were to model an early P-38, would it basically be a hack job of the current  L?


I'd hope not.  Cockpit would look different from the windscreen to the armor to the different control wheel if they do it right.

It would be an OD/ Gray bird with small intakes as the radiators were set up differently involving the leading edge of the wing.  The intakes on the tail booms would be smaller. etc etc.

It wouldn't have the same range as the fuel tanks were smaller in the wings.  It would have no dive brake so it would be flown somewhat differently and compressability would be more of an issue.

The L obviously was a much better fighter, but the early F,G,H birds were the ones the "aces' did their work in.  Richard Bong for example had over half his kills in early model 38s.  The big 38 fights over Rabaul were in early model 38s, the MTO 38 drivers were in the thick of it with early model 38s well into 44 etc.

And personally I think the early model 38s look better with the small intakes

Image is the real Porky II flown by Major Ed Cragg of the 80th FS Headhunters.  There is a restored P38J flying in these markings on the airshow circuit.

I've seen the real bird ID'd as a G and an H.  They look the same

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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2004, 07:50:08 PM »
G and H model P-38's are lighter than the J and L models, and the H model has nearly as much power.

The H and earlier models had no outer wing tanks at all, the area that the J and L use for 55 gallon outer wing tanks is occupied by the intercoolers on the earlier model birds.

The H and earlier models also did not have power assisted ailerons. This means that the controls will become heavier at high speed and it will resist input to roll. There should be little or no change in the elevator and rudder feel. On the other hand, realize that the P-38 had a yoke and wheel, so you could use both hands to force a roll, and when combined with rudder input it rolled okay. This is only a concern at high speed. At low speed there's not the resistance to roll that there is at high speed.

The G and H models are what the 20th and 55th FG's went to war with in late 1943.

Also note that WEP time may be reduced, because without the more efficient intercoolers and oil coolers, the earlier models got hot faster.

The F and early G models would belong in the early war group, and saw action in the Med (including North Africa and over Italy and Romania) and Pacific mostly. The late G, H and even the eraly J models would be mid to late war.

The early J model would actually be considered mid war plane and a somewhat early model P-38, since even the J was not the final evolutionary model. The J models had several versions, unlike both the H and L.
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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2004, 07:58:12 PM »
Don't get em leaning towards a J Savage.  Let's get the H or earlier please :)

Gotta be able to do Rabaul, The Aleutians, North Africa, Sicily, etc.

And those early birds look better!

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