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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2004, 09:44:30 PM »
Crap Nash I thought a new cartoon had come out :D  Shoulda guess it would be another US election baised thread ;)

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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2004, 09:47:33 PM »
Look...

You can argue with the choices I've used to illustrate a distinction between the two. You can most likely come up with your own illustrations that paint the blue in just as bad a light. I already said that my choices were one sided.

It was the division that I think has become obvious, no matter what the reasons there are for it. Go ahead and seek your own reasons for the split. Paint the blue in the worst light possible in doing it.

This is not an attack on "dumb republicans". This is an acceptance of a solidifying split. A split that Liz doesn't seem to acknowledge despite two consecutive elections that do not compare to anything in recent history. One Nixon/Kennedy election is one thing. Two Nixon/Kennedy elections in a row represents the emergence of a pattern. When was the last time the winner was unknown on election day?

It is no longer, "He took this, he took that". It is now "He managed to pick up two red states, and he succeeded in only picking up one."

There's a gawdamned innevitableness about it! And it's only getting more innevitable.

Why is that? Well, argue the reasons as much as you want. Or pretend there are none. I don't see it that way.

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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2004, 09:49:22 PM »
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Crap Nash I thought a new cartoon had come out :D  Shoulda guess it would be another US election baised thread ;)


This is it for me. I'm done with it.

I just needed a wrap-up post. A sort of "what's the meaning of it?" closer.

Then, I move on.

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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2004, 09:49:22 PM »
I saw interviews the other day on CNN with "the man on the street" in NY.

One guy said "It's scary (the red states).... one doesn't want to drive through those states.....we don't even know who these people are"

That made my day and summed up the democrats nicely. They don't know who Americans are and think that NY is the only lifestyle that matters to mankind.

Out of touch doesn't even scratch the surface.

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2004, 09:56:07 PM »
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Look...

You can argue with the choices I've used to illustrate a distinction between the two. You can most likely come up with your own illustrations that paint the blue in just as bad a light. I already said that my choices were one sided.

It was the division that I think has become obvious, no matter what the reasons there are for it. Go ahead and seek your own reasons for the split. Paint the blue in the worst light possible in doing it.



I would never try to paint blue and red states under one umbrella. The factor in the election was not the states, it was Kerry himself. Pretty plain to see.

I don't see any division that is unusual other than the fact that Republicans won big across the board.

What division?

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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2004, 09:57:26 PM »
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I saw interviews the other day on CNN with "the man on the street" in NY.

One guy said "It's scary (the red states).... one doesn't want to drive through those states.....we don't even know who these people are"

That made my day and summed up the democrats nicely. They don't know who Americans are and think that NY is the only lifestyle that matters to mankind.

Out of touch doesn't even scratch the surface.


I can just imagine it:

Oh dear Buddha, farms, christian churches, high school footbal and no men's fashion salons!!  What is this terrible place!

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2004, 10:01:11 PM »
Okay Nuke.... That picture describes the deal better than my 1,000 word diatribe (I saw it too).

Right or wrong, that's how he feels.

And that's what I'm getting at.

Some Americans suddenly feel like they don't understand the country that they live in.

Had Kerry won, others would feel the same.

It's different than Carter vs Reagan. It's different than Bush vs Clinton.

It's something else, I think. Something is gelling here. Something different is happening.

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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2004, 10:25:52 PM »
studmuffins.  Shut yer yaps, and just look here instead: http://www.redvsblue.com
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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2004, 10:27:19 PM »
lol SOB, that's what I thought this thread was about before clicking the link.

That some funny crap.

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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2004, 10:27:36 PM »
the inspiration for the title of the post. :D

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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2004, 10:33:47 PM »
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Totally agree. Totally.

We are practically bankrolling the rest of Canada and we might as well be on mars as far as they're concerned.



Shudup, you urban hillbilly.

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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2004, 10:34:51 PM »
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Some Americans suddenly feel like they don't understand the country that they live in.

Had Kerry won, others would feel the same.

 


I can only comment on what I've seen and I haven't had the chance to travel out of state, or area, really, since before the election.

That said, I have run into many people who seem to feel exactly as you put it there.  It's like a feeling of disillusionment has spread through a sizeable portion of the local population.

Basically, the Daily Show has how such people feel down pat.

Not saying that comedy is a good thing to go by, but if you can approach it with an open mind, they really do have a funny point.

Yet, I wonder, how many people who are deathly afraid of the "Red Tide" phenom, have ever spent any time in a "Red" State?  (I'll bet quite a few haven't).

The only "Red" state I've spent a good amount of time in is North Carolina (Charlotte region).  But you know what?  At least compared to Connecticut, people are so much more friendly and helpful.  More respectful, I'd almost say.  

Hell, when I drove down to Florida I stopped there for the night.  A friend's friend's parents let me crash at their house, gave me dinner, a bed, and breakfast, and had never even met me or heard of me before.  You'd be very  hard pressed to find that sort of hospitality up here in Connecticut, well, at least the parts of CT I'm familiar with.

Point I'm trying to make is that the Blue States shouldn't worry so much.  Red State values might be a bit different then ours, but they have plenty of decent people.  They won't screw us over too bad.

Then again, every darn blue state better keep two democratic senators on the roster, if they want to have a say.
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2004, 10:42:58 PM »
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Shudup, you urban hillbilly.


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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2004, 11:11:39 PM »
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I saw interviews the other day on CNN with "the man on the street" in NY.

One guy said "It's scary (the red states).... one doesn't want to drive through those states.....we don't even know who these people are"

That made my day and summed up the democrats nicely. They don't know who Americans are and think that NY is the only lifestyle that matters to mankind.

Out of touch doesn't even scratch the surface.


     Oh please, NYC inhabitants think the world ends on the
western bank of the Hudson river ;)
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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2004, 11:14:58 PM »
Where do more federal tax revenues come from, red or blue?
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