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Offline RGJ

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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
Great feedback, just trying to take it all in and remember for future use, I really did enjoy the 2 fights we had MarkAT I was lucky to get the kill on the first one, as you overshot it was damn tough. Both fights started a first from a high alt and we ended up on the deck as I recall, I all ways forget to film and I wish I had filmed these fully. I did film the last minute of the second fight if you want to see it:-)<S> by accident I might add.

The main reason I asked about the Jugs zoom climb was to find out how to get the best from one of its strengths. But thanks to you guys I got a lot more details strengths and weaknesses to take in, on flying the Jug. I must say I am not new to AH and have flown the P47 for awhile on and off but know I want to get this bird to sing and become good at flying it, in no matter what situation, low, high, slow, fast, that is why the interest.

Thanks for all the info<S>.

Off to Duxford the weekend to get some happy snaps of a real P-47 .

RGJ
 
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2001, 05:06:00 AM »
Btw Just finished Robert S Johnson's book last night what a read! He seemed to make his Jug sing, and it seems that the P-47 had a better performance than what we have got in AH, even when he was not in his "special" plane Lucky .

Ammo sent you a mail any time Sunday would be great.

RGJ
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2001, 06:17:00 AM »
As a side note does anyone have any information on the colours and markings on the P-47's in AH? Especially as I have not seen the markings on the P-47D25 before?

RGJ
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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2001, 07:47:00 AM »
The D25 is painted in the colors of those flown by Brazil I believe.

If you don't get a more detailed answer here, try the Aircraft forum, all the Historical grognards hang out there.  

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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2001, 09:35:00 AM »
Yep, the D-25 is Forca Aerea Brasileira markings.  The Brazilian AF flew with the US 12th Air Force in Italy and made a name for themselves for their relentless jabo attacks in support of our ground troops.  "Senta a pua!!" ("Let 'em have it!!")

P-47D-30-RE with markings D3*V was flown by Lt. George McWilliams, 397FS of the 368FG. The picture in Warren Bodie's Thunderbolt: From Seversky to Victory (p.178) says the date of the photo was sometime in 1946, so I'm not sure whether our D-30 wears a wartime paint scheme.

The 368th FG was a 9th AF unit, the first ashore and operating from airfields on the Normandy beachhead. 9th AF jugs were used almost exclusively in ground support role, and few aces were made, as German fighters were rarely encountered. I was not able to find any information or stories about Lt. McWilliams, however, I did find a cool painting of a jug from the same squadron:
 http://www.aviationsaccess.com/denardo/p-47.htm


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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2001, 01:17:00 AM »
First time I have read these posts, sorry I didnt get to it earlier.  I have the film leph if you want them.  Was a great fight <S>  You have a gift of transfering a fight to text enjoyed that.

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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2001, 07:12:00 AM »
Yes Drex, I'd love a copy of that fight.  It would be very valuable both for myself and I'm sure for some other here.

I want to take second look at that really excellent move you do to force an overshoot.      If you don't mind I'll post that film on my web site so all the 47 enthusiasts can learn from it as well.  

I've got broadband, so you can mail it to me at sconrad@hfx.eastlink.ca  Thanks!

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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2001, 07:36:00 AM »
Drex,

If you can send the films to rgj@ntlworld.com it would appreciated.

RGJ
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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2001, 11:10:00 AM »
I want a copy too please. jwells3@nc.rr.com
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2001, 12:41:00 PM »
Guys... I'll post 'em on my web sight for all to download, I promise.    No need for Drex to be emailing many copies.

I expect many folks will want to check these out.


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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2001, 03:52:00 PM »
Darn leph, aI think the man can type in a the "cc" block..., And he does seem rather nice, dont ya think?
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2001, 02:54:00 AM »
Want a copy too please  
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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2001, 04:15:00 PM »
Files sent


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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2001, 07:11:00 AM »
Got 'em, thanks.

I'll have 'em up on my web site soon.

One question Drex.... are you using flaps?  I'm not sure if the flaps indicator works in the films, I don't think so.  I'd bet you are, but if you wouldn't mind, can you detail how many notches/when you are using 'em?

I use one notch below about 200 Mph in hard maneuvers, and I go for another notch if I am trying to do a vertical zoom to stall or something.  I'll go as far as 3 or 4 notches sometimes if I'm trying to hold the nose up when really slow, or trying to slow down for an overshoot.  What do you think?

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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2001, 02:00:00 AM »
Lephturn have you put the films on your website yet ?

RGJ
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