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Offline slimm50

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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2004, 09:27:34 AM »
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OMG people. I just read about half the post below about this and I can't believe how stupid some of you are.

first off. the marines are allowed to handle both obviouse and percived threats with force. the man facking death was a precieved threat.

2 the Geneva convention does not applie to the innsurgents, they are not part of a millitary they are civilians with guns.

3 If you want to applie the rulse then the marine had every right to kill the man as he was facking death.If you listen to the video the clearly says "he's facking he's dead . he's facking he's dead."

And if the guy wasn't facking then he was dead and the marine shot a corps.:D

stop listening to CNN.

Heh, learn to facking spell, why dontcha?
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Offline Dago

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2004, 10:19:01 AM »
All this hand wringing hoopla wouldn't even exist if the Marines had just tossed in a couple fragmentation grenades before entering the mosque anyway.

"Reconnoiter by high explosive" would be a good rule of thumb in Fallujah.  :aok


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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2004, 10:22:42 AM »
Circumventing the language filter
« Last Edit: November 19, 2004, 02:21:36 PM by Skuzzy »
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2004, 11:09:01 AM »
Naah, just lob the Zyklon-B canisters in from the windows and begun to dig the mass graves :)
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Offline mosgood

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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2004, 12:22:34 PM »
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Call me a bleeding heart liberal but, no.  Why?  Because i still hold out some hope that we are a cut above the insurgents, or lets just call them what they really are.  The enemies army without the money for a uniform.  Since there was a cameraman in the room, we have to assume that the situation was well in hand, save for a booby trap.  And then we may as well execute each and every iraqi we see.


I think that this is too simplistic of an argument.  We are a cut above the insurgents, and this situation doesn't prove anything.  This was a split second decision in a LIFE OR DEATH situation.  The difference is, the insurgents would not hesitate to go in guns blazing because the only time they take prisoners, is to behead them.  The Marine heard that the insurgent was playing dead and that was one of the dangers that he has seen.


Btw... why is it so easy for you to assume that the Marine is just a bloodthirsty animal that just wants to kill whatever he can get away with?
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2004, 12:49:24 PM »
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This was a split second decision in a LIFE OR DEATH situation.


How do you know? From the vid it looked like they had plenty of time to talk and tinker about the situation before blasting guys brains to the wall.
Obviously we have been looking different vids.
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Offline YTSSGTD

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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2004, 01:00:12 PM »
Circumventing the language filter.
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2004, 01:43:22 PM »
Said

"WAR $ucks it is not fun to kill a man!!!! It $UCKS!!!!"

This is from a guy who's served.

The rest of you rabid, probably Racist Hawks in here should listen to this.

Thankfully I've never had to go to war and probably never will, but I know it aint good. Why oh why can't we find another way.

War should be confined to history and the computer game! ( this is a WW2 simulation site )

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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2004, 01:46:27 PM »
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The most stupid thing about this kinda action is that you actually make your enemy  fiting until they die. That is their only option anyway. If they could surrender properly they might do that.

If that woulda been me in that sit. I woulda telled everyone to back out and granated the guy, if I was sure he had strapped a bomb to himselfe

edit: easy for me to say sofasitting it, the shooter prolly experienced a lot of crap before this happend. dosnt make the action legal anyway.

 your kidding , right?
 You do know of course, that the "insurgents"who are fighting in Falluja are there for 2 reasons.
1. to kill US soldiers
2. to die and go to vahalla
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Offline Flit

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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2004, 01:49:03 PM »
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How do you know? From the vid it looked like they had plenty of time to talk and tinker about the situation before blasting guys brains to the wall.
Obviously we have been looking different vids.

 looked like 4 to 5 seconds from the time he noticed the guy too the shots.
 That is Not very long, unless of course, the guy might have a frag.
In which case,it was 4 second too long.
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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2004, 02:01:05 PM »
blue... I don't think anyone here likes wars.... I don't like to be in wars even when they only involve 2 or three people.

sometimes tho there is no other solution.

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Offline YTSSGTD

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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2004, 02:01:33 PM »
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looked like 4 to 5 seconds from the time he noticed the guy too the shots.
 That is Not very long, unless of course, the guy might have a frag.
In which case,it was 4 second too long.


No, he is 1 second too long. Frags go off in 3 seconds.
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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2004, 02:10:22 PM »
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Circumventing the language filter



LOL !  Let me guess.. you were a sniper in your previous life and now you're training with counterstrike how to become l33t warrior but forgot to take your meds ?
You're nothing but a bad joke.
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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2004, 02:15:16 PM »
he is sandman posting under that handle to get around backing that munster guy in the last election.

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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2004, 02:16:55 PM »
Personal attack/Circumventing the language filter
« Last Edit: November 19, 2004, 02:23:52 PM by Skuzzy »
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