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Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2004, 08:37:46 PM »
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 You may say that now, but wait 6 months from now when you find out they don't have content ready, or when they release the first patch.


EQ was a fun game but Sony/Varant suck bellybutton at running it.

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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2004, 08:40:04 PM »
Thats the problem with online games. I cannot compete with a 14 year old who plays 11 hours a day.

Still, this is looking interesting.

I wish I had more time to devote.

So how much will it cost a month?

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« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2004, 09:19:38 PM »
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Ack
 You may say that now, but wait 6 months from now when you find out they don't have content ready, or when they release the first patch.


EQ was a fun game but Sony/Varant suck bellybutton at running it.



Have you even tried EQ2?  Believe me, EQ2 has far more in the way of content than WoW has.  And yes, I did play the WoW beta so I know what that game is like.



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« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2004, 09:28:09 PM »
No, playing EQ and seeing how bad it was and how bad Sony Verant was, was enough for me to not pay for another product from them.

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« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2004, 09:29:02 PM »
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 It will prolly be 15 or so a month.


Most of the 15 year olds will go to EQ 2 I think.

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« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2004, 09:34:04 PM »
if EQ2 is what I think it is (EQ1 with more classes, races, and a new graphics engine) then it'll turn into a grind LONG before WoW does.  At least WoW has a storyline worth mentioning and multiple ways to advance your character.  Killing the same field of monsters over and over again gets boring REAL quick.

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« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2004, 09:50:02 PM »
I agree, not to mention, EQ2 is going to be the land of *****y uber guilds, and the game for people who have no life.





I like how WoW kinda rewards you for being away from the game for a time.


I do not plan to spend 8 hours a day playing like I did for EQ, only to find out 8 hours wasnt enough, and you had to be "uber" to get into a "good" guild to do large portions of the higher level content.

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« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2004, 10:00:06 PM »
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if EQ2 is what I think it is (EQ1 with more classes, races, and a new graphics engine) then it'll turn into a grind LONG before WoW does.  At least WoW has a storyline worth mentioning and multiple ways to advance your character.  Killing the same field of monsters over and over again gets boring REAL quick.



If you played the WoW beta for any period of time, you've pretty much experienced all that there is content wise for the game.  Not true of EQ2.  And as for the multiple ways to advance your character...this is another area that WoW cannot compete with EQ2 on.


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« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2004, 10:14:17 PM »
"I was never impressed with WoW, EQII is a far better game, graphically and game play wise. "


Shrug.....I could say the exact same thing, except with the titles reversed.  No need to though--I hold no grudge against the EQ2 guys. I sincerely hope EQ2 does well; competition is a good thing.  For the benefit of all of us it'd be ideal if SOE is a little scared of Blizzard....and vice-versa.  It makes them work that much harder, meaning better product from both.

To a total newcommer to the genre who hasn't already made up his mind, I'd say find a way to try them both and pick the one you like better.  I'd rate them about equal overall (both are high quality, well-polished products), but they appeal to slightly different sorts of people--meaning if you like one, in all probability you won't care much for the other.  I haven't met many people who have a hard time deciding which one they like better.  


"If you played the WoW beta for any period of time, you've pretty much experienced all that there is content wise for the game. "

Blizzard has reported that they deliberately didn't make most of their high-end content available to their beta testers.  We'll see how much truth there is to this over the next few weeks.


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« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2004, 10:27:23 PM »
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 EQ2 may be a great game, but Sony/Verant were so bad, that I am going to have to hear more then 2 good reviews before I trust them with my money again.


Blizzard is not known for putting out buggy crap.

Verant I will not say the same for.

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« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2004, 10:31:27 PM »
"Blizzard is not known for putting out buggy crap.

Verant I will not say the same for."


EQ2's launch alone was by all accounts among the smoothest ever.  Apparently they handled it very, very well.   If you haven't tried EQ2, you probably should--it IS a fine product.

Personally I just prefer the other side.  That's no knock aganst EQ2.

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« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2004, 10:47:57 PM »
I have a budy or two in the beta, and have read up on it. It is tempting, but it sounds WAY more complicated then EQ1 and WoW.


Just for that reason I think it will be more of a time sink then EQ 1 and WoW.


Also every friend but one loves WoW and will be playing. Most of the same crew HATE verant and won't touch another product from them.

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« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2004, 11:11:02 PM »
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To a total newcommer to the genre who hasn't already made up his mind, I'd say find a way to try them both and pick the one you like better.  I'd rate them about equal overall (both are high quality, well-polished products), but they appeal to slightly different sorts of people--meaning if you like one, in all probability you won't care much for the other.  I haven't met many people who have a hard time deciding which one they like better.  



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I think you're right.

Even though both games are in the same genre (fantasy RPG), they are trying for two different markets.  EQ2 is geared more towards the power gamer while WoW is taking a different approach and making the game more geared towards the casual gamer.

While EQ2 has made a conscience effort to make the game easier for those new to the genre, it is still basically aimed at the hard-core gamer.  WoW takes the other approach to the point that they've put in game features that pretty much penalize you for being a hard-core gamer.  This is a highly unusual approach to MMORPGs of this scale.  There are a lot of people watching to see if this type of MMORPG can succeed since pretty much all the MMORPGs are geared towards the hard-core gamer because that's were the money is.

Personally,  while WoW will enjoy a few months of success and popularity it will not approach the same numbers of EQ/EQ2.  There will be a lot of people turned off to the game because of the game play features put in to limit the hard core gamer.



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« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2004, 11:46:23 PM »
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 I think that is a pretty good take, but I think WoW will dp well just based on that.


The people who got turned off by the hardcore style of EQ one are going to love WoW.


What are some of the things you think WoW does to penalise the powergamer?

It is kinda funny you mention this, the one guy I know who is really stoked about EQ2, hates the whole UBER, powergamer thing about EQ1 and thinks all those players are going to stay with EQ1. I think he is nuts they are all going to move on to EQ 2.

Did you play EQ1?

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« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2004, 01:14:42 AM »
seeing the sreenshots i don't like it

just not my genre

i don't like those fantasy games

i want realistic simulation

i want tankplatoonIII

a good tanksim does anyone know ?