Author Topic: Dowding - do you think Tony Blair might have cooked his goose this time?  (Read 710 times)

Offline beet1e

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Dowding - do you think Tony Blair might have cooked his goose this time?
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2004, 05:34:27 AM »
I think most people can see this hunting ban for what it is. It isn't about ending animals' suffering. If it were, then they'd have to ban angling too. But angling is popular amongst the working classes, so they don't want to do that.

It's all about ending the role of the old order, the "toffs" who own a lot of Britain. But what does Labour propose to put in its place - a society governed by benefits claimants with nose studs and failed asylum seekers?

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Dowding - do you think Tony Blair might have cooked his goose this time?
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2004, 02:31:51 PM »
I am genuinly surprised the Her Blunket actually came out saying he wanted to do those things in a 3rd term, but then again, the opposition and media have been so unadble to do their jobs recently, I doubt it will hurt Labour as much as it should. Notice that the ID card plans are not for the 3rd term, they are going into the Queen's speach, they are for before the election....a move that Labour has absolutly no mandate, there was no hint of ID cards before the last election (or if there was I didn't notice), the government argument that it would be a tool against 'terror' is the most feeble excuse ever, by the time it is actualy enforced and running, say 2 years minimum,any terrorist worth his salt will know about it and have some plan to bypass, forge etc vs it. Not long ago there was the suggestion that in place of a tax on fuel and road tax that we would be charged on a 'pay as you drive' basis, your car will be monitored and you will pay tax based on where and when you drive. Now just combine that with FORCED ID cards....you MUST carry a card with a chip in it when out and about, and your car is tracked for 'tax' purposes....umm, not that I am that paraniod, but are the hairs on your neck standing up too?!

Oh, and the theory that the fox hunting ban is in large part revenge (rather late revenge) for Maggie and the coal pits, well, it's not SUCH a cynical theory, is it!

Oh, and Wiltshire, as you asked (Fox's have to dodge unexploded shells down here, but there is no ban on military use of Salisbury Plane ;) )

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Dowding - do you think Tony Blair might have cooked his goose this time?
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2004, 03:01:58 PM »
Beetle, I thought you'd like the fact that The Right Hon Member for Texas North is making good on one of his manifesto pledges? I know it doesn't excuse the 60 tax hikes but at least he is trying.

National ID cards shouldn't be considered without realising the complete balls up any govt will make of it, probably cost about £15 billion in IT charges before or if they ever get it right.

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Blair's deployment of the hunting ban
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2004, 08:20:51 AM »