"We don't just entertain racist kids, we create them!"

[capt. apathy]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
I never said this music wasn't dangerous, offensive, rascist, or that kids would fall in line with it's message.  I don't even think that it is on the same level as some rap music. so please don't put words in my mouth...err...keyboard that I didn't say.  

Do you not think that these guys, however, offensive have the rights of freedom of expression and speech?  If not were do you draw the line to say what is exceptable and what is not?  Then I pose to you would it not be descrimination to bann this music as hate speach when other music (some rap specifically) degrades woman and poisens the minds of youths?

What I do disagree with is that a black man can say and do the same things and he's an "entertainer".  My whole point is that due to "white guilt" there is a double standard in this country.  

If people want to speak out against the "powers that be" for wanting black's to go back to "picking cotten" or whatever it is offensive to me that they referr to the "powers that be" as whitey.

Now don't get me wrong, as much as I hate most rap music (not all mind you) I beleive the same protections and rights should be aforded to rappers as I do these scumbags mentioned in this article.  It just strikes me as discrimination and smells of racism when somone wants to bann one and not the other.  Isn't the fight against racism about ending ALL racism and discrimination....not just for blacks?

very well said.  I agree just about everything except the last line.  the thing is that it isn't about fairness or ending all racial discrimination, but it should be.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by hawker238
Any lyric you'd care to share?

(I just think this is funny having Guns share his gangsta side with us )

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Last edited by Skuzzy on 11-22-2004 at 04:04 pm

[Gunslinger]

Damn that was QUICK!

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by jamusta
Rappers do not degrade whitemen.

Vanilla Ice did.

[RightF00T]

LOL Holden

Alright I found a song "White Boyz" by Snoop Dogg.  It is pretty sketch in regards to degrading remarks against Whites.  
I'm a pretty big fan of most rap but Snoop Dogg always has me wondering what would he rap about if profanity and the N-word didnt exist...good god.

[Gunslinger]

Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those guys out there thumping a bible saying all rap is bad.....but I have to admit alot of it is.

Dear Momma from 2pac is one of my favorite songs of all time.  and I find Eminem annoying and entertaining at the same time.  I just hate the double standard.

[Tumor]

Originally posted by rpm
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As screwed up as this guy is, he has a point. Rappers degrade caucasians and women, yet they are considered "artists" not hate mongers.

rap is crap

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by jamusta
When they speak of white america they are speaking to those that are in power, conservatives and the people who still think we should be picking cotton.

LOL, so when black musicans create racist lyrics about white people it's just metaphor.  But when white musicians create racist lyrics about blaock people it's truely racism.


Heheh, that explanation sounds pretty racist to me.  And geez look at that, you made a sweeping generalisation of all black musicians.  



I wonder what this actually means, "it's open season on crackers, you know; the morgue will be full of Caucasian John Doe's.".

[Tumor]

Originally posted by jamusta
Rappers do not degrade whitemen. They degrade the powers that be. When they speak of white america they are speaking to those that are in power, conservatives....

Then they need to STFU and say so appropriately, or be branded the sterotypical racists their language would have normal english speaking people understand.  The burden of proof is on them.. not the listener, and "they" are failing miserably.

[Skuzzy]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
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Last edited by Skuzzy on 11-22-2004 at 04:04 pm

Dang, I'm good.  I edited that one before you posted it!

[Ripsnort]

Something tells me Midnight Targut is just having a tizzy fit reading this thread,  for self-banning himself in honor of losing the election.

[Mark Luper]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Something tells me Midnight Targut is just having a tizzy fit reading this thread,  for self-banning himself in honor of losing the election.

It's a "hissy fit"

[indy007]

Originally posted by hawker238
Any lyric you'd care to share?

(I just think this is funny having Guns share his gangsta side with us )

"Drug dealer buy Jordans, crackhead buy crack
And a white man get paid off of all of that"
-Kanye West, All Falls Down, College Dropout Album

Personally, I have yet to get my "white conspiracy" check. I'll keep checking my mailbox though and doing my best to keep up the oppression!

I found it kinda ironic, with that lyric stuck in my head, that Kanye West was on stage recently with Jamie Foxx, who is openly racist. It'll forever be a double-standard because of "White Man's Guilt". Don't forget everybody, it's okay to want Black Power, and okay to sing songs with the lyric "Latinos Forever"... but if you make a song "White People Forever" you should burn in hell you racist scumbag. :


man... people are funny to me.

oh, and I listen to *alot* of rap. Eminem entertained me until he started making political commentary tracks, but I still enjoy his previous albums

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Mark Luper
It's a "hissy fit"

For you Southern boys, it is.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Dang, I'm good.  I edited that one before you posted it!

Dang I forgot that my system clock keeps skipping ahead over an hour every time I reboot.  I'm just too lazy to trouble shoot it.