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Offline schizer

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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2004, 08:52:52 AM »
Wrong Forum

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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2004, 01:10:54 PM »
schizer = skuzzy?

Or do we have a volunteer weekend forum police force?

I'm sure skuzzy will move the thread on Monday, so why worry about it?

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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2004, 03:56:26 PM »
Nforce 4 Chipsets run circles around the VIA chipsets for the AMD 64 Processors.  Heck even the Nforce 3 250 series beats them.  I just built a Nforce 3 250 MB, AMD 3200+ 64bit and 1 gig of ram just under $500.00.  I ran bench marks with it and I currently running faster the P4 3.4 gig systems.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2004, 10:26:06 AM »
Wolf14,

You're not short of CPU suggestions here. This thread has answered some questions I had about CPUs. guys.

When you've chosen your CPU, I would look to Asus for your mobo. I've built about four systems using Asus boards (including A7N8X-DLX, A7N8X-X, A7V333, A7V133) with an Athlon processor, and none of these systems has given even an ounce of trouble. Start at http://www.asus.com and do a search on AMD64. You should get a list of about ten boards. I've been pleased with the NForce chipset and would choose it again - maybe the K8N board.

Good luck in your search, and post back when you've decided!

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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2004, 10:55:56 AM »
I am using the Asus K8N-E Deluxe right now which for those who don't know is the NForce 3 250 chipset.  Excelent board.  I have used Asus for all my systems so far and have not had a single hitch yet.  About 5 yrs ago I built a system for a friend using an Asus board (believe it was a BX chipset at that time).  I put in a PII 400 processor in it and installed 256 meg cas 2 133mhz ram and clock FSB to 133.  Processor is running at 530mhz Something and still running today at that speed with no extra cooling or mods.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2004, 11:56:48 AM »
The MSI K7 MoBo is about $100 if you're looking for a cheaper setup.

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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2004, 06:26:39 PM »
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When you've chosen your CPU, I would look to Asus for your mobo. I've built about four systems using Asus boards (including A7N8X-DLX, A7N8X-X, A7V333, A7V133) with an Athlon processor, and none of these systems has given even an ounce of trouble. Start at http://www.asus.com and do a search on AMD64. You should get a list of about ten boards. I've been pleased with the NForce chipset and would choose it again - maybe the K8N board.

Good luck in your search, and post back when you've decided!


I like the ASUS too (have 3 A7N8Xs running in the house right now), but I can't say they've never had a problem.  The onboard USB has not worked with one of my USB devices and no help from ASUS support at all.  I have another with sproradic spontaneous  reboots, but it may be due to my son fiddling with the memory DIMMs and not reseating them properly.

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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2004, 02:24:35 PM »
Guys I cant say enough, I greatly appreciate all the help yall have provided. I am close to comming up on a move so my plans are going to be delayed.

As far as cpu goes I believe I'm gonna gun for an Athlon 3400+ 939.

On the motherboards I am split between ASUS and Gigabyte. I havent really decided on an ASUS board yet but for the Gigabyte I am leaning towards the GA- K8NS Ultra 939.

Although  one of the 3400+ 939 systems from Tigerdirect with an upgraded power supply isnt out of the question either.

And again thanks for the help.

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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2004, 03:39:18 PM »
Hey all,

Stupid question - If the OS is not written for 64 bit or the Software is not written to use 64 bit do you see any benefit?

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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2004, 04:06:07 PM »
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Stupid question - If the OS is not written for 64 bit or the Software is not written to use 64 bit do you see any benefit?
Mars,

Not a stupid question. I wondered the same thing. Check out my thread about this: http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128638

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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2004, 05:17:38 PM »
Hmm, thanks Beet.  Seems not an easy question either lol.

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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2005, 06:35:49 PM »
I read this from AMD official site and decided to forget the idea of the Athlon 64 bit sys. Why? Because i basically just play Aces High.

AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Overview
The AMD Athlon 64 processor is the first and only Windows®-compatible 64-bit PC processor. The AMD Athlon 64 processor runs on AMD64, a revolutionary technology that allows the processor to run 32-bit applications at full speed while enabling a new generation of powerful 64-bit software applications. Advanced 64-bit operating systems designed for the AMD64 platform from Microsoft, Red Hat, SuSE, and TurboLinux have already been announced.

With the introduction of the AMD Athlon 64 processor, AMD provides customers a solution that can address their current and future computing needs. As the first desktop PC processor to run on the AMD64 platform, the AMD Athlon 64 processor helps ensure superior performance on today’s software with readiness for the coming wave of 64-bit computing. With AMD64 technology, customers can embrace the new capabilities of 64-bit computing on their own terms and achieve compatibility with existing software and operating systems.

Enhanced Virus Protection with Windows® XP Service Pack 2
Enhanced virus protection is a feature of AMD64 technology. Security improvements in the Windows XP SP2 operating system take advantage of the enhanced virus protection feature in AMD64 processors to prevent the spread of certain viruses, like MSBlaster and Slammer, significantly reducing the cost and down-time associated with similar viruses and improving the protection of computers and personal information1 against certain PC viruses.

Industry-leading performance for today’s software
The revolutionary architecture of the AMD Athlon 64 processor enables industry-leading performance to help maximize productivity and deliver a true-to-life digital entertainment experience. HyperTransport™ technology can increase overall system performance by removing I/O bottlenecks, increasing system bandwidth, and reducing system latency. A fully integrated DDR memory controller helps speed access to memory by offering the processor a direct connection to the main memory. As a result, end users can enjoy quicker application loading and extraordinary application performance.

With 3DNow!™ Professional technology and support for SSE2, the AMD Athlon 64 processor has more ways to accelerate multimedia applications, enabling stellar performance when working with audio, video, and photography software. For a superior experience with high-speed Internet, the AMD Athlon 64 processor combines high-speed memory access and I/O connectivity to help ensure that end users can fully take advantage of a broadband connection to streaming video and audio, and a riveting online gaming experience.

Ready for the 64-bit future
The AMD Athlon 64 processor is designed for people who want to stay at the forefront of technology and for those who depend on their PCs to keep them connected, informed, and entertained. Systems based on AMD Athlon 64 processors are able to deliver leading-edge performance for demanding productivity and entertainment software today and in the future.

With AMD64 technology, the AMD Athlon 64 processor is fully compatible with existing software, while enabling a seamless transition to upcoming 64-bit applications. Both 32- and 64-bit applications can run simultaneously and transparently on the same platform. AMD64 technology enables new, cinematic computing experiences and capabilities, in addition to increased performance. AMD64 technology allows end users to take advantage of new innovations such as real-time encryption, more life-like games, accurate speech interfaces, cinema-quality graphic effects, and easy-to-use video and audio editing.

Protect investments with a technically superior PC processor
The AMD Athlon 64 processor is the world’s most technically advanced PC processor and the only Windows-compatible 64-bit PC processor. Advanced technologies in the AMD Athlon 64 processor include:
AMD64 technology which doubles the number of processor registers and dramatically increases the system memory addressability
Enhanced multimedia instructions support including 3DNow! Professional technology and SSE2
With up to a 2000 MHz system bus using HyperTransport technology with up to 14.4 GB/sec total processor-to-system bandwidth
An integrated memory controller with peak memory bandwidth of up to 6.4 GB/sec, supporting PC3200, PC2700, PC2100, or PC1600 DDR SDRAM
Native execution of 32-bit software, allowing today’s PC software to provide leading-edge performance while enabling a seamless migration to 64-bit software
The combination of these innovations and features provides customers with performance they need along with tremendous flexibility. Customers can experience outstanding performance running today’s applications and prepare for the next generation of software without having to upgrade or change hardware. For business customers, this extends system life cycles, simplifies technology transition and reduces total cost of ownership.

Purchase with confidence
The AMD Athlon 64 processor is the only industry standard x86 processor with the ability to move beyond the limits of 32-bit computing. The AMD Athlon 64 processor is compatible with Microsoft Windows XP and tens of thousands of PC applications that people around the world use every day. The award-winning AMD Athlon XP processor won over 100 industry accolades and was the first 1GHz PC processor. Now, the AMD Athlon 64 processor reaches a new milestone by building a path to 64-bit computing for millions of PC users.

Founded in 1969, AMD has shipped more than 240 million PC processors worldwide. Customers can depend on the AMD Athlon 64 processor and AMD for compatibility and reliability. AMD processors undergo extensive testing to help ensure compatibility with Microsoft Windows XP, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows NT®, Windows 2000, as well as Linux and other PC operating systems. AMD works collaboratively with Microsoft and other partners to achieve compatibility of AMD processors and to expand the capability of software and hardware products leveraging AMD64 technology. AMD conducts rigorous research, development, and validation to help ensure the continued integrity and performance of its products.

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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2005, 07:34:37 PM »
im using a k8n-e asus board with a 3400+ 64 , very stable , no issues .  I noticed a big jump from my a7n8x-dlx amd 3200+ xp  combo.  GL   38

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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2005, 08:22:00 PM »
id wait..

thier comeing out with PCI express now, and soon, agp will be obsolete.

im waiting till next year

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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2005, 08:43:33 PM »
Do get the Athlon 64 threy dont cost much more, have much better perfeormnance, run cooler and are easier to work with because of the chips heat spreaders which makes it much safer to install the heatsink with less risk of damage to the cpu.

Oh I wouldnt get the 3400+, get the 3200+ which is built on 90 nanometer technolgy which means it will run muh cooler. The perfpormance difference prolly wont matter much but I think the cooler running will improve long term reliabilty and stabuility.
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