Author Topic: Rugby League: Australia vs. USA (Read 1178 times)

Airhead · « **Reply #15 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:14:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Bluedog
Care to explain the US Olympic basketball team's performance then?

Sure- it's an international game now, and we left our best atheletes at home cause they didn't want to get drug tested for weed.

Now if you think for even one second that Rughby players are as big, as strong or as fast as American football players, then- why are they wasting time playing for chump change if they're good enough for the NFL?

Vulcan · « **Reply #16 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:22:54 PM »

you ever watched a rugby international Airhead? Say like the All Blacks versus Australia, or South Africa?

Airhead · « **Reply #17 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:29:46 PM »

vulcan don't get me wrong, I like rugby- all I'm saying is don't think rugby players are as big, strong or fast as football players because they aren't.

Bluedog · « **Reply #18 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:30:42 PM »

Er....because where they come from, ie Australia, NZ, England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, France, Sth Africa etc etc, American football isn't exactly a hugely popular sport, and playing pro Gridiron would make them about a one ten thousandth or so of what they get playing pro League?

And if you seriously think that pro gridiron players are that big, hard and fast, what are they doing encasing themselves in pads and helmets? they skeered or summink?

This is just ridiculous, both sports at the professional level are exactly that, proffessional, I am not saying either one or the other is 'better', just pointing out that US basketballers arent the supermen you say they are ( it would take some rather serious individuals to take on a pro league team AND the crowd) and if you really think the Australian Rugby League side(or any other representative side) are girlymen or something similar, it is blatantly obvious you have never watched a game.

Weather or not the Americans get into the whole thing is beside the point, the game is being played there now, the US has an international team, and regardless of weather they do any good or not, just having a go says a whole lot about them.
Personally, I hope the Yanks give the poms and Kiwis a hiding

PS what is the US side called? Aust=Kangaroos, NZ=Kiwis, England=Lions US= ? Eagles??

NUKE · « **Reply #19 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:33:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Bluedog
And if you seriously think that pro gridiron players are that big, hard and fast, what are they doing encasing themselves in pads and helmets? they skeered or summink?

Because they'd die or get paralysed?

Bluedog · « **Reply #20 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:35:06 PM »

Not too many deaths or paralysations in League games either, and you cant tell me the impacts are any softer.

Airhead · « **Reply #21 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:41:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Bluedog
Er....because where they come from, ie Australia, NZ, England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, France, Sth Africa etc etc, American football isn't exactly a hugely popular sport, and playing pro Gridiron would make them about a one ten thousandth or so of what they get playing pro League?

And if you seriously think that pro gridiron players are that big, hard and fast, what are they doing encasing themselves in pads and helmets? they skeered or summink?

This is just ridiculous, both sports at the professional level are exactly that, proffessional, I am not saying either one or the other is 'better', just pointing out that US basketballers arent the supermen you say they are ( it would take some rather serious individuals to take on a pro league team AND the crowd) and if you really think the Australian Rugby League side(or any other representative side) are girlymen or something similar, it is blatantly obvious you have never watched a game.

Hey Bubba, I never said rugby players were girlymen- in fact you insinuated American football players are sissies because they wear pads. All I said is you guys aren't as strong or fast as our football players- LOL how many Olympic medals have Rugby players won?- zero, that's how many.

If there were no such thing as American football, and our best atheletes played rugby instead, there wouldn't be an Aussie who could even make a team. We would dominate because we're bigger, stronger and faster than you are.

Fruda · « **Reply #22 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:43:28 PM »

I'd rather have 20 extra pounds of pads and play for 15 years. We Americans happen to enjoy our bodies, as well as our brains.

I'd rather take command of my team and destroy defenses with passes and fakes than run the whole time (well, almost the whole time).

And please, don't get started with the "elite backs can easily match the speed and agility of the NFL's elite receivers" crap. These guys have to run long patterns with lots of pads, and that hinders their mobility. And most of the time, these receivers aren't even running as fast as they can. The NFL has a lot of receivers (as well as corners) who run the 40-yard Dash in under 4.35 seconds (the great Bo Jackson ran it in 4.12). List some Australian Rugby League players who can run that fast with pads, and I'll lighten up.

Don't forget about the great ones --- the Quarterbacks. How many Rugby players can throw a ball 70+ yards, or even 85+ like John Elway? Elway may be retired, but nobody could throw like him. For some reason people say that Favre can, but come on... He can throw a football maybe 73mph. Elway could throw it 86mph in his prime, and that's like throwing a baseball 112mph.

Last but not least: Why would we, of all people, be scared of playing on Turf? We invented Astro Turf (hence the prefix "Astro", which came from the Astro Dome). Turf is very uncomfortable and difficult to play on compared to natural grass. You get burns, cuts, and bruises very easily when you'd be just fine on grass. We've been playing on Turf since the 1960's, and we've pretty much adapted to it.

And last but not least, I will explain why our Olympic Basketball team performed so badly. Two words: Allen Iverson. This ball-hogging little **** ruined it. If it wasn't for him, we'd have won. Remember that team sports are about teamwork --- Allen Iverson is about himself. He could care less about his team mates.

Bluedog · « **Reply #23 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:44:57 PM »

Your heads may be bigger , egos too I guess, but that about pulls it up.

c'mon Egghhead lighten up, untill you started carrying on about how Americans are better bigger faster tougher and stronger than anyone else, this was an interesting and polite conversation.

NUKE · « **Reply #24 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:45:52 PM »

Airhead, look at the pic of the rugby players in the first post in the thread. Look at their arms.....LOL.... fuggin girl arms compaired to most NFL punters!

NUKE · « **Reply #25 on:** November 30, 2004, 11:01:03 PM »

I had to search the internet for the results because rugby is so unpopular in the US.

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World rugby league champion Australia beat the USA Tomahawks 36-24 in Philadelphia, rallying from an 18- point halftime deficit to avoid one of the biggest upsets in the sport's history.

The Kangaroos ran in three tries in the third quarter at Franklin Field to tie the game at 24-24 before Willie Mason and Matthew Bowen touched down to secure victory. Bowen scored three tries in the first-ever match between the teams in the U.S.

The Tomahawks, drawn from players in the eight-team American Rugby League and clubs in the U.K. and Australia, shocked the No. 1 team by scoring four first-half tries to one and keeping the Kangaroos scoreless until the 35th minute.

``They surprised us a bit,'' Australia captain Darren Lockyer, who kicked five goals, told Fox Sports. ``We had our work cut out in the second half and we came home well. The Tomahawks really stuck it to us.''

LOL! If we put any serious talent into a rugby team, we would dominate the sport.

Airhead · « **Reply #26 on:** November 30, 2004, 11:09:17 PM »

LOL Amazing... A group of American shoe store clerks and part time Rugby players almost beats the mighty Aussies at their own game. Now tell me again how big, strong and fast your Rugby team is.

You even wear short pants, for God's sake.

Bluedog · « **Reply #27 on:** November 30, 2004, 11:11:24 PM »

Damn fine effort for a 'new' team, no doubt about it, but losing a game by twelve points/ three tries isnt exactly a pointer toward international dominance you know.

Montezuma · « **Reply #28 on:** November 30, 2004, 11:12:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Fruda
And please, don't get started with the "elite backs can easily match the speed and agility of the NFL's elite receivers" crap.

Darren Bennet (Pro Aussie footballer turned NFL Punter) has said that speed is the biggest difference between players of the two sports, with some NFL players having Olympic speed.

I watched dozens of Chargers games where he played. I only saw him have to make one tackle on a return guy, and it was a good hit. But mostly they just ran right past him if they got that far.

Bluedog · « **Reply #29 on:** November 30, 2004, 11:13:06 PM »

What will be interesting is how they do against the French

Montezuma, Australian rules Football is a differant kettle of fish alltogether, it is not Rugby in any way form or manner.

Just a FYI.

Not sure the guy you speek of played Aussie Rules, but I have never heard of him playing league is all.