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Offline Furball

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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2004, 04:35:44 PM »
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How about you explain why two tired pilots in a war situation in the South Atlantic on a combat patrol whould be described as 'morons' when they collide in cloud, 'young man'.


I saw a program on the falklands war not so long ago.  the harriers were flying in a "force 6?" "force 6 Gale/storm?" something like that, landing on a CV and keeping 24 hr patrol over the task force during it .
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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2004, 04:50:55 PM »
hey now!  calm thy nature dear friend of mother earth.

I meant no offence to said pilots, nor their families, nor the designers of thier navigational aids. Last on my list to offend was you.

please direct this anger towards another BB perpetrator and leave me to perform my own vesectomy in peace. thank you.

EDIT: further more i appologise for my slapdash remarks about these brave individuals. in retrospect what i said was uncalled for.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2004, 04:56:26 PM by mechanic »
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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2004, 04:54:10 PM »
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Argentina was flying French Miraze and SuperEtandar.  Record invalid :D


mirage and super Etendard

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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2004, 04:55:12 PM »
RAF GR 7 ZD464 Lowestoft Seafront Air Festival 20® Squadron Wittering, UK Harrier pilot hovers off a beach and accidentally retards the throttle when attempting to adjust nozzle position to leave the hover. After realizing his control error (that sudden feeling you get when suddenly your engine noise drops while your in a hover a hundred feet over water when you intended to change nozzle angle) the pilot attempted to correct the throttle position but accidentally pushed the nozzle lever forward with the throttle. The jet no longer buoyed by engine thrust began to loose altitude and accelerate towards the ocean. Pilot safely ejected at 64 ft altitude, minor ejection injuries.
Happened on 11/15/2004....

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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2004, 05:37:36 PM »
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Originally posted by 214thCavalier

Btw they use water injection for added thrust whilst in the hover. however that much water was more than required :D


ive never heard that before.

strange when i asked a mechanic what the water was for he said for engine cooling purposes

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« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2004, 05:58:21 PM »
Lol yea right so jets have to carry around water for cooling purposes ?
You were had :D

Was probably 2 years ago when i was shown around Wittering last.
Control tower with display pilot explaining what the pilot outside hovering was doing,  whilst he mercilessly criticised him as he was the ex red arrows co getting back up to speed with harriers.

Also spent a long time crawling around them in the hangers with the eng officers.
Display pilot said what they used the water for and that they have enough for approx 10 minutes of use if my memory is not completely addled.

Btw Mojo the date you supplied is wrong.
No way it happened this year.
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« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2004, 06:06:24 PM »
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Lol yea right so jets have to carry around water for cooling purposes ?


The Harrier does. The water is used to cool the engine in a hover.  Taken from aerospaceweb.com:

We have learned that the Harrier carries a certain amount of cooling water that is needed to to prevent the Pegasus turbofan engine from overheating during hover. If operating conditions are such that the water is needed at the maximum cooling rate, there is only enough water available to remain in hover for about 90 seconds before the supply is exhausted. However, the aircraft rarely needs to use this cooling water at the maximum rate, and can therefore hover for considerably longer than 90 seconds. We're just not sure how long "considerably longer" is. We've observed the Harrier hovering at airshows for periods of time on the order of 5 minutes or more. Based on these numbers, our best guess is that the maximum time limit over which the Harrier can maintain hover is probably around 10 minutes or so. We will continue our research into this issue to locate a more conclusive answer. [/b]

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« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2004, 10:10:21 PM »
those are tough kids in the ocean in England in November 15th.

Classy apology Mechanic.