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Offline ra

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I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2004, 05:01:55 PM »
Old ammo is available everywhere.  All countries filled  their armories with enough ammo to last their army a long time.  After the war it just sat there, no longer needed but still useful in the event of another war.  After a few decades it gets sold off to the private sector in bulk for use as target ammo.  I recently bought 900 rds of 8mm for $110 shipped, still in the original wooden crate.

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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2004, 06:00:52 PM »
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When I was at service we were having a live fire excercise which lasted for a week. We shot LAW training rounds etc, but most memorable thing was shooting Suomi-MP.

Its better than the russian counterpart, dunno its name, but you will recognize it if you have played CoD, its the gun with round 71 ammo magazine ;)

First we shot 25 shots prone from 100m.. quite accurate , even with 3 shot burst (full auto whole time)

But the fun part was to shoot standing from 50m, full clips....tatatatatatata

The target was really ripping apart when keeping firing!! And the most amazing part was that I was able to keep continous fire with accuracy , so the bullets were hitting the target, not going upstairs into the sky like with new 7.62mm caliber assault rifles.

Would like to have that kind of gun with me when in close combat in trenches.

Also to be noted: all ammo was from 1944, all were tracer rounds. We shot 5000 of them and not a single one of them worked properly --> no tracers visible.  Go figure..


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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2004, 06:41:43 PM »
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Hehe, I use a 7mm every once in a while, so I can only imagine what an 8mm would do to a deer!


Actually, while the 8mm makes for a very good deer round, the 7mm Remington Mag (if that's what you're talking about) is a more potent cartridge.  That's due to it's much higher velocity.  Winchester's 175grn 7mm Mag comes out at 2860fps while their 8mm Mauser with a 170grn clocks in at 2360.

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2004, 06:50:28 PM »
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Actually, while the 8mm makes for a very good deer round, the 7mm Remington Mag (if that's what you're talking about) is a more potent cartridge.  That's due to it's much higher velocity.  Winchester's 175grn 7mm Mag comes out at 2860fps while their 8mm Mauser with a 170grn clocks in at 2360.

Actually, the gun is older than I am.  All that I know is what my grandfather told me.  He said it was an old rifle he had with a Mauser action.  In fact, we still have some old 7mm shells in the green Remington boxes from the 70s and one from 82.  This was the latest ammo that was bought for it for a while until I got it, so it kind of gives a fit as to when it was used most often.  I believe I heard that it was bought in the 60s or so, but I'd have to go up and do some research on it to find out.

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Re: I live fired my Nagant, and got to live fire an MP40
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2004, 07:08:48 PM »
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Standard Russian/Soviet Training for soldiers during WWII were two rounds to familiarize them with the rifle..


That speaks volumes, doesn't it?

I put 200 rounds through my CETME before I was even remotely comfortable with the rifle and its accuracy.

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2004, 07:20:31 PM »
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Actually, while the 8mm makes for a very good deer round, the 7mm Remington Mag (if that's what you're talking about) is a more potent cartridge.  That's due to it's much higher velocity.  Winchester's 175grn 7mm Mag comes out at 2860fps while their 8mm Mauser with a 170grn clocks in at 2360.

Most 8mm hunting ammo in the US is rather weak because not all 8mm rifles can handle the full potential of the 8mm round.    You can buy higher power 8mm, like 180 grain/2700fps, or load your own.  An 8mm is about as good as a 30-06.

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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2004, 07:42:36 PM »
Very true.  As I said, it's a quality cartridge.  It's just that you can get a more oomph out of the 7mag (btw, I don't own one, so I'm not pimping for them)

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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2004, 10:18:26 PM »
I have an old 8mm Mod98. Is it safe to fire 7mm mags?
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