Fur lovers

[SunTracker]

The only answer I can think of: It is staged, directed and filmed for its ... commercial value to the animal rights organizations.

Classic example of someone falling victim to the "World is fair" theory.  

In order for you to continue believing the World is a fair place (thinking this makes it easier for you to live in it), you justify this horrible animal abuse by saying its a staged and isolated event.

[Hawklore]

I want to join that russian group that chase after the trappers and clubbers with AK's and tanks...

[Vulcan]

Meh...

Highly edited, the video shown in the U.S. includes footage of a fox farm where a dog is heard barking excitedly, a shot of a highly agitated fox (perhaps offered food) surrounded by calm foxes, plus mink on a farm illustrating distressed behavior, perhaps due to unusual activity on the farm out of camera range.

The video includes clips of foxes and raccoon dogs (tanuki), both animals which are also taken from the wild, in a marketplace setting. One man appears wearing a butcher's apron as he quickly kills a raccoon dog. However, another man, wearing street clothes (black leather jacket and pleated black pants) brutally skins alive a raccoon dog that he has hung on the back of a truck (license plate removed). The animal tries to bite the man and struggles aggressively, making the process extremely difficult.

The camera comes in close on a skinned, but still moving animal on a pile of animal carcasses. While the moving animal is covered in blood, showing its heart was pumping during the process, the animals beneath it are clean, proving they were skinned while dead, which, of course, is the standard, normal procedure and the ONLY acceptable one, by humane standards.

Another scene shows a man wearing tattered shoes, hitting a fox on the head with a knife, temporarily stunning but not killing it. He then struggles to skin the obviously alive, moving animal, alternating with beating it with the knife. The animal struggles so much as to make the job impossible, and a shot is seen of the man's shoes on the animal's head.

It is nonsensical to suggest that skinning an animal alive is normal practice since even this film of inhumane behavior proves this process to be difficult and dangerous, and furthermore the pulse of the living animal would cause extensive bleeding and damage to the fur. It is therefore highly likely that these scenes were staged.

The fur industry in Europe requested the original unedited footage from the Swiss animal rights group and was refused. The China Fur Commission and China Leather Industry Association challenged the authenticity of the material, saying: "Pictures showing animals being skinned alive are obviously plotted. All those with common sense would not choose this slaughter method to attain fur."

The media and general public should be highly suspect of this footage and work with the fur industry to determine the true story behind its production.

http://www.furcommission.com/news/newsC7.htm

Greenpeace, PETA and other such scum of the earth have no issues in faking or making their on videos for the "good of their cause".

I view any such evidence presented with huge amounts of suspicion.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by SunTracker
Classic example of someone falling victim to the "World is fair" theory.  

In order for you to continue believing the World is a fair place (thinking this makes it easier for you to live in it), you justify this horrible animal abuse by saying its a staged and isolated event.

Read above.

People who trade in fur or meat for a living are rarely sadistic nutcases, Greenpeace and PETA however have not shortage of a complete  fruitcakes in their ranks who would not bat an eyelad in doing this sort of thing for their cause.

[JB88]

i really doubt that there are alot of them but then...you might be willing to concede that there are radical and fringe elements in all causes which people are passionate about.

i could easilly replace the word pro-lifer or republican as easilly as i could tree hugger or liberal.

about as plausible as saying that the republicans planned 9/11 as a way of capturing power.

sounds pretty silly right?

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Originally posted by Vulcan
Meh...

 

http://www.furcommission.com/news/newsC7.htm

Greenpeace, PETA and other such scum of the earth have no issues in faking or making their on videos for the "good of their cause".

I view any such evidence presented with huge amounts of suspicion.

Well if the fur commission says fur isn't obtained by such brutal methods, it must be true... sorry but that source is every bit as suspect as PETA.

The original video is from the Taiwanese RSPCA I think. Up to you to decide how credible they are. Having seen what the mainlanders do to moon bears, and chickens, it doesn't seem that out of place: being humane to animals is rather a Western cultural belief, that holds very little sway out in Western China. I'm all for it, myself, but Zhang San there doesn't care a hoot.

here's the link: http://www.east.org.tw/16/link7.htm The English one is at the bottom.

[ASTAC]

I'm sure these groups would have no problem hurting a few animals to make a video they can use...Groups like PETA are just as bad as terrorists. In fact PETA is the ligitimate front for a domestic terrorist group called the Earth Liberation Front. Known for destroying property to get their message across. I'm sure this group that put this video out is about the same.

[CPorky]

I could care less about the whole PETA 'crusade', they are beyond any rational discussion and will never be happy until we are all wearing cotton and eating tofu.

That said, what worries me is that abuse and cruelty to animals has been linked to abuse towards fellow human beings as well, as if they are using animals to quell their thirst for sadism.

If that film doesn't bother you at all, do the human race a favor and at least stay away from children.

[FiLtH]

Im not going to watch it. Everytome my curiosity gets me to peek, Im disgusted and sad I did.

[BUG_EAF322]

animals should be killed as humanely as possible. It is just respect.

Yep and domesticated preferably

I could never kill a man but when i see those guys clubbing it boils me really.