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Wolfala · « **Reply #15 on:** December 13, 2004, 12:34:06 AM »

Nice hijack Crumpp.

The question was directed solely to WW - not to you because of his education dealing with all things Grummann and Pratt R2800 series birds. So do yrself a favor, before you make yourself look like a complete dick - if you have something to say, say it in private - otherwise bite your tongue.

Wolfala

warmcocoroos · « **Reply #16 on:** December 13, 2004, 12:40:16 AM »

no the 112 would be bad, but id like to see the 111-z, i dont care if it doesnt do anything, itd just be hilarious to see!

(pssst...)
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GScholz · « **Reply #17 on:** December 13, 2004, 02:01:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Wolfala
Nice hijack Crumpp.

The question was directed solely to WW - not to you because of his education dealing with all things Grummann and Pratt R2800 series birds. So do yrself a favor, before you make yourself look like a complete dick - if you have something to say, say it in private - otherwise bite your tongue.

Wolfala

With all due respect (which is not a lot), perhaps it is you who should say things in private if the question was "directed solely to WW" instead of posting the question on a BBS?

You do make yourself look like a complete dick.

Delirium · « **Reply #18 on:** December 13, 2004, 02:40:01 AM »

GScholz, after all your attacks on America and its citizens you have the guts to say that?

Pot calling the kettle black...

GScholz · « **Reply #19 on:** December 13, 2004, 03:23:05 AM »

*lol* Please find one post where I "attack" America. Define "attack" btw. Perhaps you mean criticize?

And JFYI I do have the guts to say pretty much anything.

Tilt · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:16:24 AM »

To my mind the Ta 152 was a "precedent too far"..........

The even the HE162 is more appropriate.

There are a whole bunch of Meteors, P-63's, F7F's, F8F's etc etc that have no right in a WWII air combat sim/game IMO

SunTracker · « **Reply #21 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:19:31 AM »

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what i want to know is how many japanese the ta-152 shot down?

Shane, here is how World War 2 was organised

America
Great England
Canada

Verses

Japan
Germany
Russia

So if a ta-152 shot down a japonese, it would be friendly fire.

Crumpp · « **Reply #22 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:42:00 AM »

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Tilt says:
To my mind the Ta 152 was a "precedent too far"..........

The even the HE162 is more appropriate.

There are a whole bunch of Meteors, P-63's, F7F's, F8F's etc etc that have no right in a WWII air combat sim/game IMO

Absolutely!!

Screw all the late war WunderBirds.....

The workhorses we have now will do the trick. There are too many types that did serve and are needed much more in the planesets than any Uberhumpdeedoodle Mk 109 hovertank. Or whatever Arlo calls it.

Crumpp

moot · « **Reply #23 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:42:13 AM »

Krusty prolly meant to compare the 152's perk pricing.

thrila · « **Reply #24 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:49:59 AM »

Hehehe sun tracker.... nice post.

Shane · « **Reply #25 on:** December 13, 2004, 07:11:21 AM »

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Originally posted by SunTracker
Shane, here is how World War 2 was organised

So if a ta-152 shot down a japonese, it would be friendly fire.

you might want to re-calibrate your sarcasm meter.

and pssssst... i do beleive russia was on the allied side in WW2.

Tilt · « **Reply #26 on:** December 13, 2004, 08:13:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Shane
and pssssst... i do beleive russia was on the allied side in WW2.

LOL as in "potatoe"

Is Suntracker Japanese? maybe he sees the Russian/Japanese non aggression treaty as putting them on Japans side.

SunTracker · « **Reply #27 on:** December 13, 2004, 09:38:48 AM »

I'm sorry, I became confused.

Alies-

America
Russia
Canada

Axes-

Germany
Great England
Japan

Pongo · « **Reply #28 on:** December 13, 2004, 10:29:02 AM »

Russia, Germany, Japan is correct if you pick mid 1940- mid 1941

As to the Bearcat getting in the game. I have allready been fighting a flame fest on this one on the IL2 boards.
Some people seem to think there is some established historical line. If a plane saw combat. They even prefer to include prototypes that saw combat over series production fighters that might not have. Of course this distinction only really hurts the two US birds.
They seem to be saying that the most important issue in deciding if an aircraft was a "ww2" aircraft and therefore an Aces High aircraft is how close the manufacturing country was to the front lines.
I think this is an artificial and convienient distinction that just serves their purpose. If the aircraft they were interested in were on the bad side of that distinction they would argue the oposite.

The only "line" that HT should consider is:
Was the aircraft developed and delivered in ww2 to line units and is enough known about it to model it?

The only issue is the perk price. The game has a mechanism in place to allow these aircraft to be included. A few perk carrier birds would be a great addition to the game. IMHO.

Both these Grumman birds should be in the game. IMHO

Furious · « **Reply #29 on:** December 13, 2004, 10:51:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
...The only "line" that HT should consider is:
Was the aircraft developed and delivered in ww2 to line units and is enough known about it to model it?

The only issue is the perk price. The game has a mechanism in place to allow these aircraft to be included. A few perk carrier birds would be a great addition to the game. IMHO.

Both these Grumman birds should be in the game. IMHO

Agree 100%