Author Topic: Cali to going to try and Ban handguns (Read 807 times)

Trell · « **Reply #15 on:** December 16, 2004, 02:41:46 PM »

It all has to do with the haves and the have nots, See the goverment elite can be trusted but us peons below there feet can not...

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #16 on:** December 16, 2004, 02:51:32 PM »

And will residents be compensated for the returned guns?

hawker238 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 16, 2004, 05:14:21 PM »

What's with all the b****ing on this board? For gods sake, this works out for everyone on this board.

Almost nobody on this board is from San Fransisco.

If the bill is passed, the city will serve as a model for future legislation. If it fails miserably, as many of you are whining, then it will be repealed and no other states will pass it.

On the other hand, if it lowers crime and homicides, then it demonstrates this type of legislation will work in American cities.

So, if nobody minds, just pipe down and we'll see in a few years what happens. I'm actually looking forward to the results because it will show with the greatest definition whether this can work in America.

God!

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 16, 2004, 05:17:32 PM »

shutup hawker

no one likes you:D

hawker238 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 16, 2004, 05:20:09 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
shutup hawker

no one likes you:D

Hey, if someone didn't say it, it would turn into one of those 200+ threads where Gixer says it works in New Zealand, someone says New Zealand isn't a real country, someone says repsect the dead who fought and died in WWII from NZ, someone says if America hadn't stepped in and saved your tulips in WWII you'd be speaking german, whoever said that last thing is a homosexual, blah blah blah.

Ad nauseum.

NUKE · « **Reply #20 on:** December 16, 2004, 05:46:42 PM »

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Non-residents, however, would not be subject to the possession law.

So they feel that only people that live there cannot be trusted with guns. All others are fine and can be trusted. SF would rather be helpess I guess. More power to them.

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Anti-violence campaigner Cathy Tyson, whose son was murdered, said the measure would reduce violence: "Normal, average people don't need guns."

How ironic.....her son was murdered. On the other hand we have his son, one of the "Normal, average people (who) don't need guns."

That's comedy.

Otto · « **Reply #21 on:** December 16, 2004, 08:15:57 PM »

All the 'Gang Bangers' will turn in their guns and you'll all be safer.

Right?

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 16, 2004, 08:24:23 PM »

We had a orange county sheriff come in today for some reason. He talked and some kid asked him about gun control. He said if we lessen it that there will be more good people going to jail and if we increase it more crime will happen. Which i think is right.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #23 on:** December 16, 2004, 08:28:14 PM »

if you outlaw hand guns only outlaws will have them. Normal average citizens who don't murder people will be turning in their guns while people who use them for crime will now have free reign.

People of San Fran enjoy your bed!

Airhead · « **Reply #24 on:** December 17, 2004, 12:42:58 AM »

I visit San Francisco occasionally and frankly I'm relieved the law abiding three piece suit wearing effiminate yuppies with their Italian shoes and manicures won't be packing heat anymore. There was nothing more intimidating than going into a truly bad place- say, Top Of The Mark- and having some sissy in a thousand dollar suit stare you down.

Now I'll be the only one with a gun.

Schaden · « **Reply #25 on:** December 17, 2004, 12:51:24 AM »

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Originally posted by hawker238
Hey, if someone didn't say it, it would turn into one of those 200+ threads where Gixer says it works in New Zealand, someone says New Zealand isn't a real country, someone says repsect the dead who fought and died in WWII from NZ, someone says if America hadn't stepped in and saved your tulips in WWII you'd be speaking german, whoever said that last thing is a homosexual, blah blah blah.

Ad nauseum.

signature material if ever there was...

BluSamRN · « **Reply #26 on:** December 17, 2004, 06:46:03 AM »

I grew up in Kennesaw, Georgia, a lovely town that passed a law REQUIRING all homes to have firearms. Crime rates plummetted, needless to say. Meanwhile, area that ban firearms show dramatic INCREASES in violent crimes. Why is it that even with all the evidence smacking themin the face liberals just don't get it?

lazs2 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 17, 2004, 07:55:11 AM »

hawker... we allready have an example or ten of this kind of legeslation.. Washington DC has even more restrictive gun control than what is propossed. Would you say that it is a good enough reason to not do it in other cities? or... are you like the die hard commies who say that commuinism really woill work it just hasn't been done rightr yet?

how many examples do you need? blusam pointed out the kennesaw Georgia experiment that made crime plummet.. Washington DC on one hand.... Kennesaw (and every concealled carry state) on the other.... hmmm... real smart them frisco guys eh?

It is proven that overcrowding in rat populations causes them to go insane. Big cities are overcrowded.

lazs

ra · « **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2004, 07:57:24 AM »

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Originally posted by BluSamRN
I grew up in Kennesaw, Georgia, a lovely town that passed a law REQUIRING all homes to have firearms.

How do these ordinances work? Personally, I own a small arsenal, but guns give some people the heebie-jeebies and I don't see how the law can force someone to own a weapon he doesn't want to own. How do they enforce it? Is there a penalty for not owning a firearm? I can imagine some people buying the cheapest thing that qualifies as a firearm and leaving it unassembled in the box, locked away in the attic. That doesn't really accomplish anything except for wasting the homeowner's money.

ra

lazs2 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2004, 08:10:25 AM »

I don't think the criminal knows if you are buying a cheap gun and locking it away. It is an extension of the theory that more guns equal less crime that seems to be true... the more guns that are possibly available at any time or place... the less likely that criminals will indulge in impolite behavior.

people are more polite when they feel that there are penalties for impolite behavior... a screaming and ranting neighbor can be calmed by holding a tape recorder up to his face for instance.

lazs