Gadhafi ends nuke program because of Bush.

[NUKE]

Although some blind people may think that Libya ended it's nuke program after years of UN and European pressure, most rational people have always realized that Libya is now cooperating because of the USA, nothing more.

http://news.bostonherald.com/international/view.bg?articleid=59394

``America was very worried that Libya might get a mass destruction weapon, so they were very happy about our decision,'' Gadhafi said on RAI's `

In other words, he is ending the programs because he is afraid of the US, not the UN or anyone else.

``It was Mr. Bush who promised to reward Libya if we got rid of this program,'' he said. ``The withdrawal of this program was pro-Mr. Bush.''

In other words....he's afraid that Bush might actually act against him.

The UN means nothing to Libya, Iraq, NK, Iraq or anyone else. The only thing nations understand is the credible threat and use of force.

The UN  will never scare any nation into conforming to it's useless resolutions.

[-tronski-]

It was Mr. Bush who promised to reward Libya if we got rid of this program

I guess some don't draw the line at buying off terrorists...oh wait..apart from the Saudis


But then I thought it was Blair's doing in Libya?
Oh well perhaps the poodle was being walked at the same time...

 Tronsky

[lada]

Originally posted by NUKE

In other words, he is ending the programs because he is afraid of the US, not the UN or anyone else.


In other words....he's afraid that Bush might actually act against him.

well realy ?? if im not wrong, you quoted that

``It was Mr. Bush who promised to reward Libya if we got rid of this program,'' he said

So he simply bough them. You explanation is wrong. He gave program because and i will copy past it again [ ``It was Mr. Bush who promised to reward Libya if we got rid of this program,'' he said ] ....

How exactly did you conclude, that they are afraid of Us ?

[slimm50]

Originally posted by lada
well realy ?? if im not wrong, you quoted that

``It was Mr. Bush who promised to reward Libya if we got rid of this program,'' he said

So he simply bough them. You explanation is wrong. He gave program because and i will copy past it again [ ``It was Mr. Bush who promised to reward Libya if we got rid of this program,'' he said ] ....

How exactly did you conclude, that they are afraid of Us ?

Give me a frikkin break! You guys howl that Bush doesn't use diplomacy, but when he utilizes the old addage "you catch more flys with honey..." you go nuts on him again. He can't win with you boneheads. I consider it money, or whatever, well invested. Don't you???

[lada]

Originally posted by slimm50
Give me a frikkin break! You guys howl that Bush doesn't use diplomacy, but when he utilizes the old addage "you catch more flys with honey..." you go nuts on him again. He can't win with you boneheads. I consider it money, or whatever, well invested. Don't you???

whos howling here ?

Im just asking how did he conclude that Kadafi gave up his program because he was afraid of Bush. Im not telling that make bussines with freedom fighters is crime.

psssst tronski

[Furball]

IT WAS ALL USA! USA DID IT!

U-S-A!! U-S-A!! U-S-A!!U-S-A!! U-S-A!! HOO HOO HOO!

Mr Blair said Britain had been engaged in talks with Libya for nine months.

""Libya came to us in March following successful negotiations on Lockerbie to see if it could resolve its weapons of mass destruction issue in a similarly co-operative manner," he said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3335965.stm

[lada]

that explain Nuke`s belive that Kadafi feared US so he gave up his program

thx for link

[Suave]

Originally posted by lada
America, I don't like very much this country.

[lada]

Originally posted by Suave
I run out of arguments so i called lada USA hater

...is anybody surprised ?

[OIO]

He gave up his program because at the time the US was invading Iraq, had invaded Afghanistan and had a sizable military force in europe and in the middle east.

Kid you not Lybia was very likely 'up there' in the menu.

The guy did the only thing he could to stay in power himself. He gave up his nukes in return for not being deposed. All wacko dictators keep themselves in power at any cost. He may have lost credibility in the eyes of his fellow arabs and terrorrist groupies but he's still in power and thats what counts for him.

[Schaden]

Nuke should just direct everything he posts direct to

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Could save a lot of time and cut out the middleman - less thinking required too!!!

[NUKE]

Originally posted by OIO
He gave up his program because at the time the US was invading Iraq, had invaded Afghanistan and had a sizable military force in europe and in the middle east.

Kid you not Lybia was very likely 'up there' in the menu.

The guy did the only thing he could to stay in power himself. He gave up his nukes in return for not being deposed. All wacko dictators keep themselves in power at any cost. He may have lost credibility in the eyes of his fellow arabs and terrorrist groupies but he's still in power and thats what counts for him.

Exactly right. The cedible threat of force made Lybia act, not the credible threat of UN resolutions or peace talks.

Gadhafi was quoted as saying "I saw what happened to Iraq and I was afraid"

You guys think that suddenly Gadhafi woke up and decided to give all his nuclear materials to the USA? I remember at the time it was announced, a bunch of clowns here were saying that talks with the Europeans had finally paid off.

What I am saying is that Lybia only gave up it's nuke program because they were afraid of the US. That is why the USA now holds the remnants of Lybia's nuke program on our own soil.

Rationalise it however you like, but the facts are that the US is the reason Lybia gave in.

[Thrawn]

I not sure why you brought this issue up again.  Gaddafi has been trying to make nice with west for ages now.  You know that, so I can only assume this tread is nothing but a troll.

[NUKE]

Thrawn, I brought it up because it was in the news on 12/17/05, an interview with Gadhafi.

He clearly does not mention any other reason for giving up his nuke program other than Bush and America. His current statements reenforce what he was quoted as saying at the time.

I'm not bashing any country and never have.

The whole point is that the threat of force and nothing else is the reason Lybia gave in. The same through history.

I really wish the UN would have that credibility, but they don't. Resolutions and words mean nothing to countries like Lybia, Iran, Iraq, NK, and others.

The only way we are going to have a credible UN is by the credible threat of force. Otherwise they will be known as resolution authors and nothing more.

[Thrawn]

"The whole point is that the threat of force and nothing else is the reason Lybia gave in."


BS, Kaddafi has been trying to make peace with the west for ages.  Hence his capitulation over demands for him to pay restitution for the airline bombings.  I don't give a crap what Quadaphi says or doesn't say it just bull**** politics, look at his actions.  Or do you now believe that he is a font of thruth because he is saying what you want to hear?