Author Topic: NEXT GENERATION F/A-22 RAPTOR: Stealth fighter crashes (Read 1758 times)

rpm · « **Reply #15 on:** December 22, 2004, 06:23:34 PM »

Everyone is freaking out because 1 Raptor crashed on takeoff. I guess these guys forgot how many F-14's and F-111's crashed early in their development. Yes, the Raptor has some cutting edge technology and still has some bugs to be worked out. Does anyone remember the uproar about swing-wing technology? There was plenty of "It will never work" going on in the 60's and 70's. Funny, it seems to work just dandy today.

Toad · « **Reply #16 on:** December 22, 2004, 06:24:16 PM »

They DO have my support, Pongo.

I give them far more than empty words on a BBS, too.

How much have YOU dontated to CAUSE so far? Here, let me help ya, they take pay pal.

http://www.cause-usa.org/donate.asp

As for the lack of armored vehicles, yeah they obviously didn't anticipate the need they were going to have for them. They screwed up.

Go ahead, make a big deal about it all over again. Make the case for every one that in EVERY war, EVERY OTHER command structure has had 20/20 FORESIGHT, that every needed item was in plentiful supply and no weapons systems were ever found lacking.

rolleyolleyeyesthingamabobby

After you get done riding your high horse, go ahead an contribute to CAUSE. I already have, of course; possibly even while you were indignantly typing something about Rumsfeld's incompetence.

Pongo · « **Reply #17 on:** December 22, 2004, 08:21:36 PM »

Send your money there..
Maybe send the tax credit mr Bush got for you when he should have been thinking of the men that would fight his little war.

NUKE · « **Reply #18 on:** December 22, 2004, 08:27:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Send your money there..
Maybe send the tax credit mr Bush got for you when he should have been thinking of the men that would fight his little war.

Pongo, I don't understand what you are saying.

Yeager · « **Reply #19 on:** December 22, 2004, 09:38:58 PM »

pongo thinks bush is fighting his own little dirty war (aka mike moore type mentality). who knows, pongo may be right but I guarantee you it would be by pure chance

1K3 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 22, 2004, 09:58:39 PM »

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Totally useless plane IMHO. You allready have some of the best fighters in the world. Coupled with the best command and control system they are unbeatable. Sure the F-15 is at the end of it's service life, but you could have come up with a much cheaper alternative.

the excersise in india demonstrated that their flankers (SU-27 and other modernized variants) and migs are SUPERIOR to our current "teen" series fighter/bombers

btw, whatever happened to the new MiG fighter and Rafale?

rpm · « **Reply #21 on:** December 22, 2004, 10:00:55 PM »

You guys REALLY want to support the troops? Read my sig. I've sent $100 worth already and plan to send more. This goes DIRECTLY to wounded soldiers, no bureaucrats or politicians involved. How much have YOU sent?

Toad · « **Reply #22 on:** December 22, 2004, 10:51:12 PM »

RPM, I'm in triple digits to CAUSE.

Pongo, the tax cuts had nothing to do with it. We're spending the money... we just didn't spend when you wanted us to spend it. But it's all getting done.

They made a mistake. Dang good thing that's never happened with Canada's military, right?

Oh, yeah... how's that sub investigation going?

rpm · « **Reply #23 on:** December 22, 2004, 11:26:41 PM »

Toad, I was'nt addressing you directly. I ment it to the entire board. My apologies if it came out wrong. CAUSE is a good group.

Thrawn · « **Reply #24 on:** December 22, 2004, 11:30:59 PM »

Wow Toad, you just used a tragic incident to take a pot shot a Pongo.

Toad · « **Reply #25 on:** December 22, 2004, 11:40:43 PM »

Wow, Thrawn... just wondering where his outrage was over that incident.

I mean, that's HIS military that went to sea in a boat that had a history of safety concerns, cracks, leaks, engineer malfunctions, rust problems that restricted it from diving deep. It was the the oldest of four subs bought from Britain and the last to be deemed sea-worthy.

Cripes, ANYONE could have seen that these old boats had serious problems.

The Canadian military establishment should easily have foreseen this problem. Especially after the sister ship sister ship, HMCS Victoria, experienced motor failures, hydraulic and electronic problems on its maiden voyage. Seems like there was a lack of foresight on this one.

But... no outrage from the all-seeing one. Maybe he made a donation to the family though. Who knows.

Yeager · « **Reply #26 on:** December 23, 2004, 02:18:23 AM »

toad, I request that you give the canadian military, or what passes as a canadian military, a break here. The intent was good and thats what we should be focusing on.

I for one am pleased that the canadians think enough of world peas to send some boats runnig deep to........to.........to.....p reserve world peace.

I will sleep better tonight knowing that there is a canadian diesel sub out there, somewhere.....doing.......... .......something, anything....to preserve world peace in spite of heir bush.

Gop bless Kanada!

SunTracker · « **Reply #27 on:** December 23, 2004, 04:17:38 AM »

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Yes, the Raptor has some cutting edge technology and still has some bugs to be worked out.

HAHAHAHA, the Raptor program started (1981) before I was even born, and its just now coming into service. Cutting edge technology, yeah right!

The F-22 was designed to counter SOVIET aircraft. Well, war has changed. We dont train to fight the Soviets anymore. So, 23 years in the making, we have the most expensive weapons system in the history of the U.S.

So, for better or worse, we have a new fighter. Well, two, counting the F-35. Hope the Army is doing well with its cutting edge 1959 technology M-16.

Fishu · « **Reply #28 on:** December 23, 2004, 04:34:51 AM »

Planes do sometimes go down, nothing new.
Just too bad when the plane is four times more expensive than the typical fighter.

Krusher · « **Reply #29 on:** December 23, 2004, 07:03:08 AM »

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mora, I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. I was angry at the my dog, who insists on setting next to me and farting while I am at the computer. I think my wife must have changed brands of dogfood again because this dogs farts are actually more intense and repulsive then steaming fresh dogsh*t mounds out on the lawn.

What is with dogs? mine likes to do the same thing !