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Offline Widewing

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Annoying stick and throttle issues
« on: December 24, 2004, 01:21:10 PM »
I just exchanged my X45 system for a new one when the hat and trigger switch began to become unreliable.

So, last evening in the TA doing my Trainer thing, I winged up with Badboy to do some work in P-38s.

Flying at his low 4 O'Clock about 50 yards behind, Badboy accelerates and breaks down to the left. I follow. We go through a series of maneuvers without incident, then he goes high to the right. I add some some right rudder, gradually increasing it when all of sudden the aircraft departs violently. I catch it quickly, rolling left, but Badboy is behind me turning hard. We get into a hard turning fight. However, every time I use any rudder to maintain the edge, the aircraft over-controls and I have to roll partially out of the turn to grab it back. I took more fuel than usual, but this isn't load related. Something else is going on. Down on the deck, it over-controls again and I auger.

While in the tower I check the sliders and nothing has changed. I recalibrate and we head off again. Once again, Badboy breaks and I follow, using rudder to quicken the roll in. Once again, it stalls, this time a flat stall.

I check the rudder output from the rocker and lo and behold, this brand new unit is spiking like crazy and even worse, slight inputs result in full rudder deflection.

Up in the loft of my garage is a year-old X-45 that I retired when the switches and pots began to get weary. So, I go out and get the throttle assembly and exchange it with the new one. I calibrate and launch out in a P-51B.

Ahhh, that's the way it should work! Vastly better.

My biggest complaint with X45s have been with the dirt-cheap switches they use. Garbage, really. Now for the first time, I have had a brand new throttle/ rocker assembly turn up defective right out of the box.

Has anyone else had similar issues with recently purchased X45s? My feeling is that the quality of components has gone down over the past two years.

My regards,

Widewing
« Last Edit: December 24, 2004, 01:24:22 PM by Widewing »
My regards,

Widewing

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Offline Cobra412

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Annoying stick and throttle issues
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2004, 01:30:12 PM »
Widewing my old X45 had the same issues with the rudder paddle on the throttle.  It spiked constantly even when it was brand new.  I also noticed that the spikes wouldn't be as extreme depending on where my throttle setting was.  If I put the throttle at 50% or so the spiking from some of the switches would cease completely or just not spike as bad.  The 2 X45s I purchased didn't last long, maybe 3 months or so.  I finally got fed up with them and bought a CH setup.  I've had it for a year now with absolutely no issues except for my left brake always wants to indicate a slight bit of braking.  I just calibrate it with a cd case under both brakes so the braking issue goes away.

Offline mechanic

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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2004, 01:42:52 PM »
you should try flying with the Saitek Cyborg evo.

man its a POS :)

these problems occour regularly for me also.  not to mention the hat switch only works for 60% of the views after 3 months.


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Offline nopoop

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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2004, 03:12:18 PM »
They're on the expensive side, but CH USB stuff can't be beat.

The USB Fighterstich is made for HUGE hands but with alittle sanding to the view hat ( Slapshot suggestion ) and getting used to the "spread" when using the view hat with the pinky ( I use the pinky for stick sets ) it is an awsome gear setup.

Never had an issue with this combo doing weird things.
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Offline Greebo

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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2004, 05:26:24 PM »
I try to imagine the guy they modelled the CH Fighterstick for, he must be some Arnie type with hands the size of dinner plates. :)

What I did with my Fighterstick was carve a lump of balsa wood to the shape of the handgrip. Then I stuck this above the right hand side of the flange which runs around the bottom of the handgrip using double sided tape. This block raises my hand about one inch and makes the stick much more comfy to use.

Offline SlapShot

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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2004, 06:53:20 PM »
alittle sanding to the view hat ( Slapshot suggestion )

Had I not come up with that ... this stick would be in the garbage for sure ... now ... its a dream come true.
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