Fair weather warriors....

[SlapShot]

I'll get back to this ...

We encourage everybody to do 1 milkrun + 1 GV run a day for scorepotato purposes

If you are "scorewhoring" then how can you credibily claim ...

"Cool, my squad is #6"

See the irony in that ?

I must commend you for your vigor and enthusiasm and if that gives you joy and fun ... more power to ya ... just don't expect others to gasp for breath when we see your squad ranked so low.

[TexMurphy]

Delirium

Personally I think its the map.

This map is just "wiered". I seem to have a hard time finding good battles. There are so damn many bases but so few fights.

There are basicly no smaller engagements at this map at all. Its a few hoards, 1 or 2 per country.

During the last 2 maps there has been alot of great lower numbers fighting and evenly matched hoards clashing.

Its easy to blame the people and "the game play" but I really dont think its either of em. Its the map.

Tex

[Canaris]

Originally posted by humble
Anyway called out CAP alt on my way into 114 and got back some noobish response from guys at 100. Instead of just letting it go made a comment back....got told to keep my mouth shut till I got my score up:rolleyes: ....

Why does everyone around here care about rank?  Rank is nothing except it gives you the opportunity to control a cv.  As long as your having fun, who cares if your rank is really bad or if you are a bad pilot.  If your having fun, its all good.


Canaris

[indy007]

I know exactly what you're saying SlapShot, I just disagree... I see it from a different POV.. however you want to put it.

If porking a factory did not affect rebuild times, then a milkrun wouldn't accomplish anything at all. Now, I could be wrong, but from everything I've read, flattening factories increases the downtime of the hangar/bunker/barracks/whatever at each base in the zone. That's pretty helpful for your side imho.

Now, if I'm wrong, then I'm a moron & have been wasting my time. Otherwise, every little bit helps. A score improvement & some perks for taking your time to do it seems like a fair reward, not one to be sneered at.

Now if you're looking at scores as an indicator of personal skill, yeah, I can see, and agree with all the arguements against it. However, I think it serves as a good measurement of how you & your squad is helping out your side.

[mechanic]

Indy007


get your squad to fight the TAS or some other furball orientated squad in the DA for 30 mins. even if you have twice thier numbers they will school you, most likely with no deaths.

this is because they fight to learn how to fight better.

milk running and vulching does not help you learn anything.

[kj714]

this is top secret stuff, here is the knight base taking strategery:

1. Assemble mission
2. Launch from hangar into field gun position
3. Reassemble mission
4. fly to nme base
5. 1/2 way to base, 1/2 of mission turns to chase down lone spit.
6. Arrive at nme field, de-ack
7. reassemble mission
8. return to nme field, take down a fiter hangar
9. After a reasonable amount of time, take down vh, make sure no less than a dozen flaks are on field.
10. after 1st fighter hangar comes back up, take down next fighter hangar.
11. auger, killshoot, pancake, rtb fuel, -a good Knight keeps his options open-    
12. Repeat steps 8 - 11 (also known as "Conga") for as long as possible, keep things interesting by getting an undefended goon close by the half up town from time to time.

*Important* -----> It's necessary for at least one person to fall victim to goonlemming syndrome during this part of the operation.
 
13. After a consensus is reached that step 12 has been completed, get vh, fh, town all down.
14. Start new mission to capture next field, return to step 1.

[kj714]

"If a vulch is on, I'm not ashamed to take part in it. In a sick part of my mind, I like the race for kills. I like a good GV spawn camp too. We encourage everybody to do 1 milkrun + 1 GV run a day for scorepotato purposes. If E starts to equalize and there's alot of bad guys, I'm taking my toys & going home. We'll up GV's & fighters in defense until a vulch gets on (or I get tired of trying to HO people in a Yak-9T... takes 2 to go nose to nose!)"

I give indy007 points for honesty!

Who are the 69th hangar bangars anyway, never heard of them, new squad?

[dedalos]

Originally posted by kj714
" If E starts to equalize and there's alot of bad guys, I'm taking my toys & going home."

Who are the 69th hangar bangars anyway, never heard of them, new squad?

I think its because of the above

[humble]

I've got no problem if someone is into "rank"....you payed your $14.95 just like I did and you get to bomb all the tool sheds you want to....

BUT....

The real test of how good you or your squad is happens when you and the other toolshed warriors squabble over the same turf. Now the bisquits (thanks for correction zanth) were after 114 and the "good guys" were after 100. Now, obviously the barbarian horde was able to overcome the defense (spirited I'm sure) presented by slap and others {in truth we always lose to the horde eventually} since our toolshed warriors were otherwise occupied. Now, once 114 was taken the defense #'s went up significantly at 100....and our brave toolshed warriors immediately redeployed to less contested digital dirt....forevering answering the age old question...."whats in your wallet (er sack)"?....answer.....not a stinkin thing:rolleyes:

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by humble
I've got no problem if someone is into "rank"....you payed your $14.95 just like I did and you get to bomb all the tool sheds you want to....

BUT....

The real test of how good you or your squad is happens when you and the other toolshed warriors squabble over the same turf. Now the bisquits (thanks for correction zanth) were after 114 and the "good guys" were after 100. Now, obviously the barbarian horde was able to overcome the defense (spirited I'm sure) presented by slap and others {in truth we always lose to the horde eventually} since our toolshed warriors were otherwise occupied. Now, once 114 was taken the defense #'s went up significantly at 100....and our brave toolshed warriors immediately redeployed to less contested digital dirt....forevering answering the age old question...."whats in your wallet (er sack)"?....answer.....not a stinkin thing:rolleyes:

Regardless of what some folks say, I think it's way too easy to get caught up in the 'reward' system of the game, whether it be 'winning the war" or collecting perk points and showing up on the score board.

So and so lands 57 kills in his LA7.  WTG's all round.  Folks like to hear it.

If it didn't matter, there wouldn't be score potatos.    It's always easier to follow the horde and dive in with all the advantages.

Even the folks who up to defend, and I include myself in this bunch, get worn down after a bit from always getting mugged by the mob.  I gave up worrying about points after my second tour in Airwarrior, so that doesn't matter, but I'd be lying if I didn't mind landing once in a while.  Being a Nomad that's a challenge as it is, but we've proven we can do it once in a while.

The dream fights are the ones where the numbers are even and it's a roll of the dice and maybe a bit of skill if you survive it.

Sadly they probably happen once every couple of days if you are lucky.  Otherwise it's the horde mentality hard at work.

Dan/Slack

[SlapShot]

If porking a factory did not affect rebuild times, then a milkrun wouldn't accomplish anything at all. Now, I could be wrong, but from everything I've read, flattening factories increases the downtime of the hangar/bunker/barracks/whatever at each base in the zone. That's pretty helpful for your side imho.

Well .. unless you pork ALL the factories (like AAA factories) then very little is impacted ... and ... unless you level the cities (the ones with the C in the circle) along with the strat factories ... again ... very little impact. Level the City and all the AAA factories and now your talking impact, but very few have the patience to do all that ... they just pork the factories to boost their "bomber" rank so that they can be l33t and have a low rank .... so they can ...

Control a CV and tell others like humble that they are full of crap cause they have a lower score and are somehow more intune than humble.

Here is a tip for you and your squaddies if ya really want to scorepotato ...

Take 1 Stuka with 1 1800 Kg bomb and drop it on a new strat. Destroy messages will fill the screen. Land the Stuka and park it. Your bomber score will be higher on that one run than a dozen or so runs in your Ar 234. I am telling you this so you can then spend more time in a fighter and learn the finer aspects of A to A Combat and hopefully you won't go home with all your toys ... u must learn to share ya know.

[kj714]

Originally posted by indy007
I think you're right to a point Filth, but I don't think it's quite so definative. I can hold my squad up as an example... During the week, and most of the days, we furball or GV it. If a vulch is on, I'm not ashamed to take part in it. In a sick part of my mind, I like the race for kills. I like a good GV spawn camp too. We encourage everybody to do 1 milkrun + 1 GV run a day for scorepotato purposes. If E starts to equalize and there's alot of bad guys, I'm taking my toys & going home. We'll up GV's & fighters in defense until a vulch gets on (or I get tired of trying to HO people in a Yak-9T... takes 2 to go nose to nose!) Beers, mixed drinks, & smoke breaks aren't uncommon. Then it's squad night. We hang an open for business sign on the door, and grab up land as fast as we can.

Being in 1 camp is one thing, but imho, it's much better to get a taste of everybody's world

If we did it on a fuzzy-logic scale, I'd say I'm 0.2 land grabber, 0.2 purist, 0.2 score potato, 0.4 fuggit

Better put up the whole quote so I'm not credited with that statement.

[indy007]

Originally posted by mechanic
get your squad to fight the TAS or some other furball orientated squad in the DA for 30 mins. even if you have twice thier numbers they will school you, most likely with no deaths.

this is because they fight to learn how to fight better.

milk running and vulching does not help you learn anything.

Just because we look at scores doesn't mean we suck. We've got a bunch of first rate furballers. I can hold my own, but most of them put me to shame.

Here is a tip for you and your squaddies if ya really want to scorepotato ...

I've been told to do it in Ju87s, but there's 2 reasons I don't. 1) B-24s/26s/Lancs get better coverage and kill a higher % of the factory (I'll sacrifice a few perks for a bigger flattened %)... multi-engine bombers shake my room when I turn up the 5.1 (neat)... and I like to roll back on the throttle so fighters can catch up, so I can put all those MG's on them. I don't trust my skills trying to fight it out in a Ju87. Tried it before. Kinda sucked.

Who are the 69th hangar bangars anyway, never heard of them, new squad?

Used to be the Shiznotz. Dragoon left the game & we reformed with TalonX as the CO. I quit for a few weeks while this was going on, lost my previous callsign Indy007 cuz of it, and now I fly as IndyHB. Been a decent month, killed more than I've died, haven't had more than 10 vulch kills in 3 weeks, shot down Shane's F4U (got an assist, blah, then was shot down by him 5 minutes later), and figured out how to kill Tiger's fast.

Now to clear something up, because I let it go & felt like debating the usefulness of porking strats. Not once since I started playing again have I been told to make sure I did my daily milk/gv run. Alot of my squad has bomber ranks > 1000. The daily milk/gv run was part of Dragoon's guide to scorewhoring (I'm not joking, I wonder if a link is still up...). However I still don't think it's a bad idea to have a decent rank. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. With high rank, you just take the CV back

[humble]

The "score" thing never bothers me....truthfully it's not tough to get a decent score. Mine was 581 last tour....meanwhile the noob in question was 1031. Tour 57 he was 935 and I was 673. Now the few times I've thought about score I'm in the ~200's....but after a week or so its so boring I stray back to the old habits.

If we use tour 58 my primary ride was the Ki-61, 2nd was P-38 (keep beating my head against that brick wall) and third was the F6F (jabo ride)

Noob's top rides are Nikki, spitIX and PXIV....in 57 he's spitIX,hurricane,nikki. In Tour 57 I'm 142/58 in Ki-61.....he's 84/74 overall:) ......

Now I'm sure he's actually a nice guy...and for all I know he may be halfway good....but geez...if these are your #'s vs digital dirt you got aways to go....

Now obviously there are tons of guys here that are way over my head....at least I've got the common sense (most of the time) to think before I go off at the mouth:)....

[Duchess]

darn it