Yushchenko's recount victory

[Boroda]

what is a Kool aid?

What I personally feel about Yuschenko "victory" is that in a matter of months or years I'll be unable to visit my relatives without visa or foreign passport, and that talking Russian in Chernovtsy where they live can become dangerous in a couple of years. I'll be glad to be mistaken.

And I don't think anyone here will be happy about NATO bases on our land. I say "our" because I am half-Ukrainian, and don't think of Ukrainians as of "foreign people". I am a part of them.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Boroda
Keep hallucinating. Still need to clean your pants when you see Hammer and Sickle? Bolshevik stormtroopers my ass! Another American telling me about "communist brand of law and order"...

Hardly.
Doesnt make me clean my pants anymore then any other rodent I'd see roaming about.

I know about Communist brand of law and order by hearing about it and seeing the scars from communist brutality first hand from some of those that managed to escape it.

I've also seen first hand  and will never forget the tears running down an old womans face,
And I remember her crying and saying over and over "So much food, its not fair, its just not fair"
on entering one of our food stores and seeing for the first time things like this
And this



Yea, real good system you had there.

see those pictures above?
thats called FOOD.

In a democracy it seems its alot easier to come by even for the poor then it was under your soviet boot

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Boroda
what is a Kool aid?

 

That sound you heard was Stalin's spirit racing over your head.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Hardly.
Doesnt make me clean my pants anymore then any other rodent I'd see roaming about.

I know about Communist brand of law and order by hearing about it and seeing the scars from communist brutality first hand from some of those that managed to escape it.

I've also seen first hand  and will never forget the tears running down an old womans face,
And I remember her crying and saying over and over "So much food, its not fair, its just not fair"
on entering one of our food stores and seeing for the first time things like this
Yea, real good system you had there.

see those pictures above?
thats called FOOD.

In a democracy it seems its alot easier to come by even for the poor then it was under your soviet boot

Really? Hey, listen to me, did I live in USSR or where? Did that lady come directly from sieged Leningrad? To see stuff like on your pictures - you on;y needed to go to a nearest "kolhoz marketplace", or "consumer cooperation",  "KOOP" shop. Only the food sold there was all natural.

Now tell me what did that lady say about food prices in your "consumer paradise". And I can tell you a great Soviet secret: she couldn't afford buying food in a marketplace mostly because she was sitting on her arse in an office doing nothing earning 120 rubles monthly. At the same time a hungry student who went to construction-squads in the Summer could easily earn up to 5000 in 1.5 months and celebrate his return in a best restaurant on Gorky street.

Keep on telling me how bad was my life in Soviet times, it's educating Who's next with "bread lines"?

[JB73]

Originally posted by Boroda
what is a Kool aid?  

it is the powdered beverage mixed with sugar into water, most famously used by jim jones in jonestown where 913 of his cult followers poisoned themsleves to death drinking a leathal concotion of red kool-aid and cyanide in 1978.

[bikekil]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4122721.stm

this reminds me the thing with the france and the germany when we backed up USA  in Iraq. Chirac said that Poland missed the chance to shut up... now when we speak about the Ukraine another democratic country don't like that. Come on, wtf is wrong with ya

WTG Ukraine! Hope the people will benefit and the choice was right! Also hope Ukraine and Russia will work together - both sides would benefit surely!

[Boroda]

Originally posted by bikekil
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4122721.stm

this reminds me the thing with the france and the germany when we backed up USA  in Iraq. Chirac said that Poland missed the chance to shut up... now when we speak about the Ukraine another democratic country don't like that. Come on, wtf is wrong with ya

The Kwasniewsky's words that Putin quoted were: "For the US Russia without Ukraine is better then with it".

Kwasniewskiy's definetly right, but, unfortunately he sounds like a pro-american jakal I find Putin's reaction absolutely understandable and proper. There is nothing to discuss here.

Originally posted by bikekil
WTG Ukraine! Hope the people will benefit and the choice was right! Also hope Ukraine and Russia will work together - both sides would benefit surely!

Yes, agreed completely. But now the forces that got to power in Ukraine are 100% anti-Russian. They declared their goals: to reduce Russian population to 30-50 million, to make it supply "golden billion" with oil and gas

[Suave]

Boroda you can't expect anybody to take anything you type seriously when you use that hammer and sickle swastika as avatar.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Suave
Boroda you can't expect anybody to take anything you type seriously when you use that hammer and sickle swastika as avatar.

now go tell Austrians that Hammer and Sickle = swastika. I think that if you'll say it in a bar in Vienna you'll get into real trouble.

[Suave]

I would never insult an Austrian by insinuating that he's a bolshevik. At least not without a very good reason.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Suave
I would never insult an Austrian by insinuating that he's a bolshevik. At least not without a very good reason.

Ignorance is power.

Look at the Austrian State Emblem. Then think for half an hour about hammers, sickles and swasticas.

You'll be surprised about Austrian's reaction when you'll say Hammer and a Sickle equals to swastica. This is a best way to accuse him of being a nazi.

Keep on entertaining me, please.

[Suave]

Oh now I get it. You misunderstood. I didn't equate any particular representation of hand tools to nazism.

I was just pointing out that your avatar is the symbol of a genocidal dictatorship built on slave labor, a dictatorship no better than nazi germany, maoist china or 19th century america.

And only an idiot would take any statements from a person who identifies himself with such an offensive symbol seriously. Skuzzy prohibits less offensive things on this board.

Shine on you terrible reminder, lest we forget.

[bikekil]

Originally posted by Boroda
The Kwasniewsky's words that Putin quoted were: "For the US Russia without Ukraine is better then with it".

Kwasniewskiy's definetly right, but, unfortunately he sounds like a pro-american jakal I find Putin's reaction absolutely understandable and proper. There is nothing to discuss here.

 

Yes, agreed completely. But now the forces that got to power in Ukraine are 100% anti-Russian. They declared their goals: to reduce Russian population to 30-50 million, to make it supply "golden billion" with oil and gas

Prolly, different media different quotes... havn't heard KWasniewski saying this so won't argue about it, but... read what you typed "pro-american jackal". So... afte many years of being soviet slaves here in Poland, once finally have our freedom back, we as a independent nation can't support america? wft? Germany, France and now Russia are dissatissfied about independent country supporting another coutry? gee is it a crime?
But to be honest, Ukraine opened to the west is something that we, Polas are happy to see - are you surprised? is Putin surprised? if he is - he is a fool... but i doubt he is a fool... so as others in my coutry, please look at it as our opinion about future of that region. for us, free and independent Ukraine is surely better then Ukraine dominated by Russia... but you know what? screw our vote, because Russion or Polish wishes are worth nothing... Ukrainians have his right to decide about his future - so they did, no matter if we like it or not

 As for the second part - if Ukrainias will do anything against the law you will here me saying that they should be spanked badly, but i doubt it's going to happened. If you are afraid that Russians living there or Russians in Russia are in danger because of Ukraine - i believe and i hope i'm right - it's propaganda.

But as i said, you or me can't predict the future, so let's wait and see what the time will bring. Hopefully nothing that could hurt Russians living in Ukraine.

but if we are about it - Poles who appeared to live in Soviet Union while our agreat allies with stalin moved our borders and gave our lands (our after WWI) to Stalin, hurt badly till 90's... (many times seen the people living in Belarus and saying what's going on over there nowdays)  let's hope it won't happened to Russians.

[WhiteHawk]

What do you mean 'hard fought'!?  This clown kept whining and crying and crying and whining until the count finally came out his way, just like the librules do every election over here!

[slimm50]

Originally posted by WhiteHawk
What do you mean 'hard fought'!?  This clown kept whining and crying and crying and whining until the count finally came out his way, just like the librules do every election over here!

Kid, he wasn't "whining", he was decrying actual injustices, very much unlike our "Librules" here who do exactly as you said. In the former case it was justified, I believe.