Author Topic: The Forming of Something Great.... (Read 8971 times)

Nwbie · « **Reply #360 on:** January 25, 2005, 10:35:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
I challenged the whole WM squad to the DA to fight me, the WM's vs Waffle...

they declined

Hard to believe Waffle
If anything we are great gangbangers

NwBie

wrag · « **Reply #361 on:** January 25, 2005, 11:33:37 AM »

Hmmmm.......

Didn't decline, just didn't think you really meant it Waffle......

NwBie hit it perfect. Not that we don't enjoy 1 v 1. Win or lose had some great fights 1 v 1.

Waffle · « **Reply #362 on:** January 25, 2005, 11:43:50 AM »

I always mean what I say.....lol

WMLute · « **Reply #363 on:** January 25, 2005, 07:08:00 PM »

never challenged anybody to the DA on ch200 that night. I DID respond to waffles challenge though. And some other guy, who's name I don't recall who threw out an offer to duel, and in the latters case of the guy I don't remember, I hardly took 'em serious, but I did offered to duel after the "smack the horde" was over. Offer still open. I'll be glad to fight 'em.

IIRC I told waffle that I was the only WM needed in the DA vs him.

Also shubie, I guess your right. It was launch. BUT that was obvious, so it was all good.

Stang · « **Reply #364 on:** January 26, 2005, 12:23:02 AM »

Let me clear this thread up real quick. Any time shubie's horde is met with anything near equal numbers it will be annihilated frankly because the pilots who are in Jamusta's camp are generally top notch fliers and very skilled killers. The Shubie horde is made up of less experienced players who aren't very skilled at air to air combat, and it doesn't take a genius to figgure out what will happen when to unequal groups clash. Therefore, Shubie's horde will have to result to drastic tactics to even have a chance to succede in their mission. The AAR's I've read from the other night seem to support this, as they should.

No offence to anyone, it's just the way things are.

lazs2 · « **Reply #365 on:** January 26, 2005, 07:59:27 AM »

yep... I think you got it... so long as no one bothers to do the boring task of intercepting the skilless horde or... they are sneaky... they can appear to be doing something. If anything like equal numbers oppose them then they will be slaughtered like the mouse weilding building battlers that they are.

It is they that depend on the furballers.... they depend on the furballers to leave em alone.

I think that it would be in good taste if they reciprocated and didn't destroy the FH or CV at a really good fight but I know that despite the facts being out there... they still need the attention of being where the action is... Some of the skilless horde will allways wander off of the milrun and suicide into the FH's or CV to get some much needed and otherwise unatainable attention.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

rshubert · « **Reply #366 on:** January 26, 2005, 08:51:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Stang
Let me clear this thread up real quick. Any time shubie's horde is met with anything near equal numbers it will be annihilated frankly because the pilots who are in Jamusta's camp are generally top notch fliers and very skilled killers. The Shubie horde is made up of less experienced players who aren't very skilled at air to air combat, and it doesn't take a genius to figgure out what will happen when to unequal groups clash. Therefore, Shubie's horde will have to result to drastic tactics to even have a chance to succede in their mission. The AAR's I've read from the other night seem to support this, as they should.

No offence to anyone, it's just the way things are.

Actually, a lot of very good sticks are part of "the horde (tm)". The reason an intercepting force can be so successful is (yeah, I know, shubie is always talking about tactics) that the attackers need to keep their ordnance in order to achieve their goal; survival requires getting rid of the ord. The other night, a lot of enemy fighters intercepted us 10 miles or so out of the target field, which is the ideal spot. And, since numbers were a bit low, we took no dedicated escort--my mistake, it turned out. The nikis could not climb the energy defecit hill, and we got pasted.

lazs2 · « **Reply #367 on:** January 26, 2005, 09:10:21 AM »

not to mention that none of you can fight anything more lively than an outhouse.

lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #368 on:** January 26, 2005, 10:49:22 AM »

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Originally posted by rshubert
(yeah, I know, shubie is always talking about tactics)

You are always talking something, but it`s not spelled "tactics".
Far from it.

SlapShot · « **Reply #369 on:** January 26, 2005, 11:21:58 AM »

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Originally posted by rshubert
Actually, a lot of very good sticks are part of "the horde (tm)". The reason an intercepting force can be so successful is (yeah, I know, shubie is always talking about tactics) that the attackers need to keep their ordnance in order to achieve their goal; survival requires getting rid of the ord. The other night, a lot of enemy fighters intercepted us 10 miles or so out of the target field, which is the ideal spot. And, since numbers were a bit low, we took no dedicated escort--my mistake, it turned out. The nikis could not climb the energy defecit hill, and we got pasted.

Yeah ... and when they lose their ordinance ... "survival" is usually not an option cause a very large percentage of "the horde (tm)" couldn't find their bellybutton with both hands when forced to fight.

That is why, when faced with opposition, "the horde (tm)" lifts up their skirts and scurries to another part of the map where there is no opposition.

jamusta · « **Reply #370 on:** January 26, 2005, 11:42:00 AM »

Well shubie part of using tactics is picking the right equipment for the job. You choose N1k for jabo and took them to 23k or so. To me that was a bad decision. I was in a chog and met your group co alt. I came through your group at 400 or so and in 1 pass took out 3. Not one of you had a chance of catching me. I circled around and got a couple more. Point is there are much better planes for that roll. I would have had taken p47's. Some light some heavy. They have great ammo load out and hold alot more ord. At that alt they begin to really shine in performance.

nopoop · « **Reply #371 on:** January 26, 2005, 11:43:00 AM »

But I think we're being a little unfair here. Shubie is organizing a horde with the expressed purpose of being stopped.

Good for him. That's confrontation.

Let the games continue. Sounds like fun. I can't fly until 1030 pacific or I'd love to partake.

Fuggin PM shift.

Good for you Shubie, hope you guys have fun.

Nwbie · « **Reply #372 on:** January 26, 2005, 03:46:17 PM »

wtg nopoop, that was the way I was reading it too, and was surprised at the immediate flames he got, I don't picture this particular "horde" venacular as a bad thing, -- he said - hey here is something different, we will up many, you try to stop us, lets do something a little different for fun

Gives the peeps who don't have the time or the experience in participating in scenarios to get a little feel for it-and I think with organized semi-events like this in the MA, it will help get more involved in the scenarios and such, I am always surprised more people don't jump into the snapshot events on Wednesdays, they are usually over in 1/2 hour to 45 minutes and give you a different experience in the game

So like nopoop - wtg shubie - great idea

NwBie

rshubert · « **Reply #373 on:** January 26, 2005, 05:45:21 PM »

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Originally posted by jamusta
Well shubie part of using tactics is picking the right equipment for the job. You choose N1k for jabo and took them to 23k or so. To me that was a bad decision. I was in a chog and met your group co alt. I came through your group at 400 or so and in 1 pass took out 3. Not one of you had a chance of catching me. I circled around and got a couple more. Point is there are much better planes for that roll. I would have had taken p47's. Some light some heavy. They have great ammo load out and hold alot more ord. At that alt they begin to really shine in performance.

Well, I actually would normally use 38s or jugs, but we wanted to mix it up, try something different, and fool you into thinking the nikis were the escort, like last week. Sometimes I outsmart myself.

~~shubie~~

mars01 · « **Reply #374 on:** January 26, 2005, 05:55:43 PM »

The only reason that Shubie is taking alot of flack is because he spewed so much crap after the first try when in was something like 40 vs 4. After that he was going on about how great the planning was, ignoring the fact that he had numerical superiority and that is what won the day, not some great tactical schema.

Now as he was faced with a more even match up numerically, and didn't even take a base, I think that speaks volumes about his tactics.

Other than that poop, you are right. ~~for organizing a horde with the expressed purpose of being stopped.~~