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Offline Tilt

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« on: January 02, 2005, 06:53:30 AM »
I know its an old one........

but can we consider putting rev based WEP on the throttle and leaving the  WEP Button for additve based systems (water, NO etc) which would then be "on" all the time(that its switched on) and not just at high revs.

WEP (both types) could still be disabled (as now) when the engine temp reached certain limits
« Last Edit: January 02, 2005, 06:58:43 AM by Tilt »
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2005, 09:42:10 AM »
I agree with your thinking; but temprature restricted?

Isn't that the same safety crutch as auto retract flaps?

I've never seen any restrictions on NO2 systems; for example. Once you hit the button; they go on until you turn it off; you run out of aditive or the motor goes bang.

And it deasn't regernerate over time either; any more than fuel does.

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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2005, 09:58:09 AM »
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Originally posted by Seeker
I agree with your thinking; but temprature restricted?

Isn't that the same safety crutch as auto retract flaps?

 


Well may be but HTC have made it ultra clear that various crutches are here to stay.......

Can No2 be run on half throttle in a 109 in AH ?
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2005, 10:04:18 AM »
Which 109 has a Nitrous-oxide boost? :eek:

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2005, 10:12:53 AM »
Maybe we should dig this up from the grave, for some forensic evaluation? :D

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2005, 10:55:55 AM »
IMO, the whole engine management should be revised, not only for WEP. The temperature should start raising even below our current military setting, and it should also be depending on the speed for air cooled engines. Crossing the "red" line does not imply any increase on the temperature raise rate, but it increases the chances of breaking the engine.

Only planes with some especial emergency power switch should have a WEP switch, any other plane should have just max MAN attached to the throttle control and max RPM.

Currently, in most planes we have a range of powersettings that can't be set between what we call military and wep.

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2005, 04:07:08 PM »
Problem is, if you make things to hard (i.e. having to pay more attention to engine settings and stuff) alot of people will get frustrated and quit the game. You have to remember a lot of the  people that play this game are not aviation buffs that know alot about planes. They play for the fun of flying around and dog fighting. I like realism to a point, but if it goes to far it takes away from the enjoyment of playing the GAME.
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2005, 10:35:55 AM »
It's not hard.  Throttle back sometime and let the engine cool.  Well ok, numpties may find this difficult to understand but that's all.

EAW used the same method, no wep key, run on full power for too long and the engine starts to tick and misfire.  Throttle back and it'll cool off again, dont throttle back and eventually you'd hear a ringing sound as the piston rings melt and a short while later it'll blow.


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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2005, 03:16:16 PM »
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Problem is, if you make things to hard (i.e. having to pay more attention to engine settings and stuff) alot of people will get frustrated and quit the game. You have to remember a lot of the  people that play this game are not aviation buffs that know alot about planes. They play for the fun of flying around and dog fighting. I like realism to a point, but if it goes to far it takes away from the enjoyment of playing the GAME.
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That's a good point; but HTC have already shown the way with combat versus manual trim.

Those that want to twiddle with trim may do so; and many of them claim a benefit in doing so; especialy with some of the more late war "advanced" planes such as all the German ones :)

OTOH; Leviathan (and the rest of the noobs) chug merrily around in a Spit V with CT enabled killing any one too dumb not to run away (and a good few of those that try).

So with trim complexity; an oft debated realism point in prior on-line sims becomes a win - win situation.

I think that's a good precedent that could be applied to many of the "ultra-real" whining points: make it an option with a tiny actual benefit for taking the analy "full realism" route while those happy with an auto option get some thing that's good enough 95% of the time.

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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2005, 08:54:55 AM »
Actually I was in error refering to the throttle (I have both rpm and boost co mapped to my throttle) I should have reffered to the rpm controller.
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