Author Topic: I need HELP in the Panzer (Read 790 times)

Oosik · « **on:** May 09, 2000, 08:54:00 PM »

I'm getting my butt handed to me by that flying cannon th "F4U-1C" has anyone found a good way to defend themself from these monsters. Unlike planes the tank moves too slow too avoid an encounter. Planes that fair poorly (ie. P51, C202, F4U-1D, & C205) against the panzer can choose to fly away, but a tank can't run

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What I would like to know is what is the best way to avoid an encounter with the F4U-C1 and what is the best defense/offense against this killer? (Short of heading for the tower at the sight of a F4U)

Thanks for any help submitted.

Greg 'wmutt' Cook · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2000, 11:13:00 PM »

The first and most important thing to do is "Be Aware". You have pointed out the truth that you don't have the choice of engaging the plane, so you are given the role of defender in any engagement. Given that, position is everything, so start getting it as soon as you see the dreaded f4u-c. I like to head straight at the plane. This deepens the angle of his attack and makes him fire under negitive G. You also are a target for less time, and might get the poor bastage to lawndart

But most important, keep moving! A stopped target is a dead target. get going, and then switch to the gunner. Also, open up at extreme range. like 1.5 or better with the coax gun. It might not be effective in damaging the plane, but it will give the pilot something to consider while he tries to calmly line up a shot.
Lastly, don't take failure too seriously. You are at a very big disadvantage in this fight, so don't be discoraged when the odds go the way of the smart money. Keep plugging along, and hope for the longshot.

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Dinger · « **Reply #2 on:** May 10, 2000, 07:11:00 AM »

First, the bad news: there is no defense in a panzer against a properly-flown A/C equipped with HS cannons. Your driver may seep before you die, but die you will. (Note to HTC: the Mk 108 30mm should be less effective against Panzers than even the .50 cal)

Second, listen to what wmutt says, it's good advice. Personally, I don't put much faith in the panzer's mobility: I only move until the guy drops his bombs. Then you might as well park (for better accuracy), and open up with the coax at d1.5. When he gets closer, go for the "long ball" with AP and HE.

I have gotten kills with the Coax. Even at that caliber, a good long burst in the same place will eventually hit something critical (usually the engine or the wing root).

If he runs an attack above your ability to elevate your turret, you're dead.

(for further tips, see my "Tank Dweeb" post below)

Lephturn · « **Reply #3 on:** May 10, 2000, 08:59:00 AM »

Uh.. I suggest you take some buddies in M-16's along. Panzers SHOULD be dead meat to a good A/G plane with no AA support.

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Dinger · « **Reply #4 on:** May 10, 2000, 09:14:00 AM »

True Lephturn, but with HS, M16s are even easier to pop than panzers. Just open up from d1.4k, and pull out at 700 yards. They die before you get into range of their .50s.

Minotaur · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2000, 11:54:00 AM »

Leph;

LOL

Check the stats, a Panzer is much better G2A than the M16. The M16 is for shooting drunks.

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