Author Topic: 05 Mustang owners (Read 1133 times)

Masherbrum · « **Reply #45 on:** January 05, 2005, 12:33:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
*snicker*

You keep believing that if you want.. along with that you don't have a small peepee.

Snicker all you want. I enjoy people who think "more HP means my car is faster". What they really should be saying is "if I wasn't so stupid in believing that, I'd be more concentrated on TORQUE and GEARING." Again, I could smoke a Vette, with $15,000 to spend on a GT, Cobra whatever.

BTW, the 2007 Cobra is "quoted" as having 400hp. I know a lead engineer on the engine, he said "It will actually be in the 425-450hp range" when released. How expensive is the Vette again? Btw, I just care about the Torque.

Furthermore, the ONLY two vettes even worth mentioning are the Calloway Sledgehammer and the ZR-1. The Z06 would be in the rear view of both ALL DAY long.

Karaya

Masherbrum · « **Reply #46 on:** January 05, 2005, 12:44:47 AM »

"Even back when the camaro and firebird were stomping the guts out of the mustang in the performance category, the mustang always sold better so most people will pick looks over performance. That's just the way it is, and mustang owners will always have to justify buying a slower car when the real reason is that mustangs are simply cooler looking cars to own and that means more than .1 second in the quarter mile or 3 mph in the slalom."

Are we comparing the 289 vs. the 302? Elaborate on the "stomping of guts" portion please, you are killing me.

Let's look at FACTUAL 1968 numbers shall we?

Camaro

Engine CID Config. B/S in. Bhp@rpm Torque@rpm Comp.ratio Carb
Base 230 I-6 3.875x3.25 140@4400 220@1600 8.50:1 1V
L-22 250 I-6 3.875x3.53 155@4200 235@1600 8.50:1 1V
Z-28 302 V-8 4.002x3.005 290@5800 290@4200 11.0:1 4V

Base 327 V-8 4.001x3.25 210@4800 320@3200 8.75:1 2V
L-30 327 V-8 4.001x3.25 275@4800 355@3200 10.0:1 4V
L-48 350 V-8 4.00x3.48 295@4000 380@3200 10.25:1 4V
L-35 396 V-8 4.094x3.76 325@4800 410@3200 10.25:1 4V
L-34 396 V-8 4.094x3.76 350@5200 515@3400 10.25:1 4V
L-78 396 V-8 4.094x3.76 375@5600 415@3600 11.0:1 4V
*L-89 396 V-8 4.094x3.76 375@5600 415@3600 11.0:1 4V

Mustang

200 c.i. @ 115 h.p. w/8.8:1 compression with one barrel carburator.

289 c.i. @ 195 h.p. w/8.7:1 compression with two barrel carburator.

302 c.i. @ 210 h.p. w/9.0:1 compression with two barrel carburator.

302 c.i. @ 230 h.p. w/10.0:1 compression with four barrel carburator.

390 c.i. @ 325 h.p. w/10.5:1 compression with four barrel carburator.

427 c.i. @ 390 h.p. w/10.9:1 compression with four barrel carburator.

428 c.i. @ 335 h.p. w/10:5:1 compression with four barrel carburator.

Three body types available: 2 dr. hardtop, 2 dr. convertible and a 2 dr. fastback.

Only the GT models received the 390 c.i.

These are HARDLY "butt stomping" numbers.

Now take a seat in the back of the classroom.

Karaya

Nash · « **Reply #47 on:** January 05, 2005, 01:02:12 AM »

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Originally posted by eagl
The roush one looks like it has a tumorous lower lip... It's like it has braces. Bright shiny red braces underneath a swollen lower lip.

I suck at cars... so, whatever about all that.

But the comparing of a car's front to faces strikes me as a recent phenomenon. I don't know how many links I've followed from this BBS lately where the reviews went along the lines of: "... headlights turned downwards, the front looks angry..." or "... the effect is of a happy face, appealing to the women demographic."

Since then, I've looked at the newer cars and yeah, they're starting to look like they're trying to imitate faces.

This is perhaps the most gayest development in car making that I've ever seen. Buy a barbie or something.

Next thing ya know we'll hear "the rear looks firm, nicely rounded, warm, and inviting."

Where is this going?

newguy · « **Reply #48 on:** January 05, 2005, 01:07:59 AM »

For those interested, the new performance 06' Corvette:
http://vorlon.case.edu/~aap8/gallery/c6z06spy/
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=984045

500HP, 3150 lb's. Cool.

What a sweet looking car, with the numbers to match. The new Stang looks ok, but lets be serious about performance comparisons. The two cars arent competing with each other. These Vette's are more in the supercar catagory, and at FAR less cost than the Porches etc. in their class.

The ZR1 Corvette was only faster than the Z06's at top end (notchback design hurt it). They dont handle as well and are not as quick. An amazing car for its time, as it should have been, for the price.

Steve · « **Reply #49 on:** January 05, 2005, 01:45:32 PM »

Karaya, I was just poking ya buddy.

The new z0'6's are gonna be faster than the Zr1's IMHO.

Now the calloway.... that's another story.

I had a line on buying one a couple of years ago... came so close.

Wife even demurred..... just more cash than I could comfortbly spend on a car I would drive 3 or 4 times a month.

victor · « **Reply #50 on:** January 05, 2005, 03:08:55 PM »

third day I had mine intake leaked water into #5 cylinder causing it to hydrolic,force cracked the block and wiped out the rod,dealer claimed over tourqed intake bolts,I've been building custom cars and jeeps for 15 years,this is a first and definate last FOMOCO product for me. Icurrently hold track record at Cedarville in a pro-streeted 67 Nova with a stroked 400 ci sbc/th400/spooled narrowed 9 inch.Runs consistent 760's on a good day.leaves a horrific oil spill on a bad day.

VIC

wombatt · « **Reply #51 on:** January 05, 2005, 03:13:11 PM »

Vic are they using the composite intakes on them?

victor · « **Reply #52 on:** January 05, 2005, 03:29:18 PM »

wombatt · « **Reply #53 on:** January 05, 2005, 03:36:32 PM »

Thats a really bad idea i think.
I have it on my 4.0 l sohc engine but it is a pretty tame engine .

Masherbrum · « **Reply #54 on:** January 05, 2005, 10:52:57 PM »

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Originally posted by newguy
The ZR1 Corvette was only faster than the Z06's at top end (notchback design hurt it). They dont handle as well and are not as quick. An amazing car for its time, as it should have been, for the price.

WHAT? It would torch the Z06! I've witnessed it on a track here in Michigan.

Outside of the Porsche 959 (THE most advanced car in its time)
The ZR-1 is second on my list (and this is coming from a Ford guy)

Karaya

newguy · « **Reply #55 on:** January 06, 2005, 01:22:36 AM »

Ok, torch it at what? I've seen the ZR-1 get beat on the drag and on autocross by C5 Z06's. As far as I know these cars were only mildly modded (exaust, intakes), so pretty close to stock. I havent driven a ZR-1, so I'm just going by what I have seen at our vette club races and read on the corvette forums. Dont get me wrong, I think the ZR-1 is great.