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What would you pay for a pre-ban Colt M4?
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2005, 05:36:07 PM »
Sounds like a steal at $1400.00
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2005, 05:51:15 PM »
Don't really have a need for one.
It would be exspensive to shoot even if you reloaded.
And after you have shot up one old car you have up them all.
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2005, 06:25:58 PM »
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Don't really have a need for one.
It would be exspensive to shoot even if you reloaded.
And after you have shot up one old car you have up them all.


Why reload? I think the M4 fires .223 ammuntion which last time I checked (been awhile) was cheap enough to make reloading the spent cases a waste of time.
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2005, 06:28:40 PM »
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*lol* I'm a shooter myself.  


Ah, OK then. You're just talking out your vent again obviously. Because you don't know jack about "stolen machine gun crime".
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2005, 06:29:21 PM »
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Why reload? I think the M4 fires .223 ammuntion which last time I checked (been awhile) was cheap enough to make reloading the spent cases a waste of time.


I dunno maybe just to noisy and jumps all around spry and pray shooting aint no fun to me.

Say your from Broofield huh?
LOL I'm and old Englewood guy myself Cherry Creek High class of 76
hows weather up there?
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2005, 06:33:06 PM »
heh it's colder than crap right now. I live near 120th and Federal.
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2005, 06:38:39 PM »
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Ah, OK then. You're just talking out your vent again obviously. Because you don't know jack about "stolen machine gun crime".


Why do you guys even respond to the Amerihaters with anything except laughter?  It's the same crap in every thread.  They'll take the opposite side of any issue you bring up, just for the opportunity to cry.
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2005, 06:39:59 PM »
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However what that statistic doesn't tell you is how many legally owned machineguns have been stolen and used to commit crimes.


So, you're just talking out your vent again obviously. Because you don't know jack about "stolen machine gun crime" and you can't find any facts to support your implication about "legally owned machineguns have been stolen and used to commit crimes".

In short, your just tossing another red herring.
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2005, 06:50:07 PM »
To be fair, the guy I quoted was making a book on the subject, and it seems he was clear about the 1%, and 0.7%  figures on illegal machine guns. If one were to confiscate a stolen mg from a legal owner, I'd say that covers it as being illegal.

How accurate his figures are I dunno, but it's such an impossibly small number, it's clear machine guns are insignificant in crime no matter how you would try to inflate the facts or spin it. It doesn't tell the whole story GS, I admit, because there is no story to tell about stealing legal mg's to commit crimes.
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2005, 06:53:46 PM »
ya, could you please tell me about how many full autos are used in crimes?  I mean the ones that were legal in the first place.
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2005, 06:55:23 PM »
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I challenge you guys to find stats on stolen machine guns used in crimes here.

Go ahead.

I'll wager this would be an extremely rare situation....EXTREMELY.

You've watched Bonnie and Clyde a few too any times.



The only one I remember was the two bozo's in California shooting at cops on the news.  I think they robbed a bank or something.

They either had M16's or AK's.
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2005, 06:57:09 PM »
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The only one I remember was the two bozo's in California shooting at cops on the news.  I think they robbed a bank or something.

They either had M16's or AK's.


They had a ton of fire power.  The cops had to raid a local gun shop to match their fire power.
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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2005, 08:30:17 PM »
However, in the Bank of America/Hollywood incident the automatic weapons that the robbers used were NOT stolen. So they weren't in the class of  "legally owned machineguns have been stolen and used to commit crimes."

They were, however, illegally transferred.

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Circumstances

On February 28, 1997, Matasareanu and Phillips tried to rob a Bank of America branch office in North Hollywood, California. While trying to escape, the two men engaged in a shootout with police. Though vastly outnumbered, the two men—armed with automatic weapons and wearing body armor—successfully held off law enforcement personnel for hours before being shot and killed by police.


How Firearm(s) Acquired

The weapons were originally bought at a gun show and then illegally resold to Matasareanu and Phillips


Where'd They Get Their Guns?
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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2005, 08:39:37 PM »
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Creamo, that info sounds right. Legally owned firearms are rarely a problem. However what that statistic doesn't tell you is how many legally owned machineguns have been stolen and used to commit crimes.


Im no expert on the subject but wouldnt it be a pretty safe bet to think that most gun crimes are commited with illegally owned/stolen guns?
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2005, 08:51:25 PM »
Gunlaws change everywhere. For the good and for the bad. Just a little diffrence: the bad guys arent effected of any law changes, they just get their stuff anyway.

Now, in Sweden, they have just changed the laws to the owners of fullautos. TO keep your license permit, you need to store the guns in a safty wich is in security class 3 (Storage 100.000$ cash
covered by incurence).

Theese are real monsters!!!, Hughe and very Expensive. But you need to get one, because if you dont have it: Goverment will take your gun and destroy it. You will get about 100$ for your gun.

Got me one safty that will cover the amount of 2,5 million$ cash by insurance at the weight of 6.5 metric ton. A real monster, but actully: a bargin.

My guns will be safe, for a while longer.

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