Wake Up America

[Fruda]

I know that was a joke, but just to clear some things up:

California's population is as follows: 59.5% White, 10.9% Asian, 6.7% Black, 1% Native American, 0.3% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islanders, 21.5% Mixed Heritage and others not reporting, and 32.4% Hispanic.


And really, what would the problem be if a minority finally becomes the majority?

[Charon]

Paul Havey's at it again.

Charon

[lasersailor184]

I trust god.  Does that mean I'm a racist?

[Jackal1]

I pretty well express myself the way I please. Yes, I still say Merry Christmas. If it bothers someone, Oh Well.
  The trouble being that a lot of U.S. citizens have no nads. So and so says this isn`t poilticaly correct or acceptable, whatever. A lot cowers down and follows the trend, usualy to further themselves financialy or to be accepted in someone else`s circle. If I have to accept , or pretend to accept something I feel is incorrect to get "in", then to hell with it. I don`t need it that bad.
  We were founded on God, (notice spelling. Not Cod), guts and glory. The people that believe in this still are what keeps us surviving. The others are dead weight. There will always be the dead weight. It just has to be kept in perspective.
  If something is not worth fighting for, then it`s not worth having to begin with.
  Freedom is not free. It`s a constant battle and will always be so.
  God bless America.

[JB88]

maybe im just in the wrong part of the country.

noone seemed to mind my lifesized santa getting serviced by the nativity sheep scene or  or the baby jesus battling the giant light cobra arrangement that i had in the yard.

its so hard to find the line these days.

[Gonzo]

Originally posted by Dago
Thats the part that pisses me off more than anything about stupid emails and opinion pieces.  Basically, this fool is saying "I get to have my say, but you don't.  I want you to hear me, but I don't want to hear you".

Have your say, but don't tell people they then can't have thiers.

dago

Dago, that theology has now become fundamentaly American: noone wants to hear anyone's other opinion anymore. It's why we've resorted to forums, b/c we can't get cut off by another speaker.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Fruda
I know that was a joke, but just to clear some things up:

California's population is as follows: 59.5% White, 10.9% Asian, 6.7% Black, 1% Native American, 0.3% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islanders, 21.5% Mixed Heritage and others not reporting, and 32.4% Hispanic.


And really, what would the problem be if a minority finally becomes the majority?

If you break it down by county its a different story.  In Orange County whites ARE a minority

[vorticon]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
There's numerous examples of "anti-christmas" junkies that were out in force this year.  Whats sad is most of these people probably have a christmas tree in their house and gave out presents on the 25th.

of course the tree, the ornaments on said tree, and the date are all actually PAGAN rituals adopted by christianity to make converting people easier. though i do agree political correctness is getting a bit much.

[Flyboy]

gear please change your avatar, i find it disturbing

[midnight Target]

Make up a problem then rant about it.. heck you can get an idiot elected President that way.

[gear]

Originally posted by Flyboy
gear please change your avatar, i find it disturbing

LOL...., You like it? it took a little work

[Steve]

I believe in God.  I understand that the men who founded our country held Christian values.  Our country is the  most benevolent country in the history of the world, considering her stature.  Our country has the most freedoms in the world. .  For over 200 years we have thrived, most of that psent as a superpower with a very high standard of living.
Therefore it is only logical to conclude that our Christian forefathers knew what they were doing when they wrote the constitution.

God may not be part of our culture in your view Fruda.  You may not like it, but our country was founded on Christain values and it has done rather well, don't you think?
Are you one of those people opposed to prayer in school?  The pledge of allegiance? "In God We Trust"   ?

Do you find someone who has any kind of christian religious symbol displayed in their cubicle offensive?

[JB88]

I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.
--Thomas Jefferson

"Religion I found to be without any tendency to inspire, promote, or confirm morality, serves principally to divide us and make us unfriendly to one another."--Benjamin Franklin

"...no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship ministry or shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but all men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise.. affect their civil capacities."--Thomas Jefferson"

"...our civil rights have no dependance on our religious opnions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry"--Thomas Jefferson

"And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."--James Madison

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."--Thomas Paine

 "One of the embarrassing problems for the early nineteenth-century champions of the Christian faith was that not one of the first six Presidents of the United States was an orthodox Christian."--The Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1968, p. 420

As the government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,--as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquillity of Messelmen, --and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mohammedan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever interupt the harmony existing betweenthe two countries"--Treaty of Tripoli in 1797, Article XI, written by Joel Barlow (USA diplomat) and Hassan Bashaw (of Algers), late during George Washington's second term and later
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ratified by President John Adams. Original and copies preserved in the national Archives in Washington, DC. under Treaty series no.358. Official Senate treaty found in the American State Papers, Foreign Relations, II p. 18-19. "Treaties and Other International Acts of the United States of America" vol.2, edited by Hunter Miller, US. Government printing office, 1931, p.349-385.

an article written by a priest regarding the topic.

i do not mean to impinge upon your faith, rather i wish to dispell the notion that our founding fathers were christians.  some were.  many were not.

we were not "founded" on christian values.  if anything, we were founded upon a modfied form of a european value system, better tuned to an expanding frontier whose optimism and progress were more influenced by the age of reason.

and that the values which you are reffering to were those which were in part formed in opposition to the abuses of the church in europe.

[Steve]

we were not "founded" on christian values

I'm not going to educate you, you've got some reading to do.  Get back to me when you are informed.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Make up a problem then rant about it.. heck you can get an idiot elected President that way.

Too bad that did'nt work for Kerry.