Author Topic: Loosing faith... (Read 2831 times)

Vudak · « **Reply #45 on:** January 12, 2005, 01:46:23 AM »

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Originally posted by BALSUR
You know to sit here and call everyone a dweeb for flying the LA7 is pure bs. Everyone one here flys whatever plane fits the situation. I can easily say anyone who flys a 190d9 or P51 above 10k are dweebs, but that not right, its picking the plane for the mission. So many times you have pilots vulching a field. If you want to get off the ground fast with the best firepower available then the LA7 is not a bad choice. So, don't be so quick to condemn the guy flying the LA7 because you feel your so skillful and its below you. Its your fault your in the 50+ eny value plane not his. BTW, I see more noob pilots in P51, P38 and Spitfire's than in LA7's

It's not BS, it's just tradition.

And I didn't call everyone bad, just most everyone

There are some La7 pilots who will destroy me, absolutely destroy me and drag my wreck around the city gates seven times or something like that. Then again, odds are the same result would happen nomatter what they were flying when we met up.

g00b · « **Reply #46 on:** January 12, 2005, 01:49:36 AM »

I'll let you all in on a little secret. The LA-5! Not quite as fast, guns are weaker, but it turns and accelerates like a scalded cat. Land 5 kills in a LA-7 and no one bats an eye, land 5 kills in a LA-5 and everyone gives you a "wtg". The funny part is I think the LA-5 is actually the better furballer.

So if you're fealing guilty clubbing seals with the LA-7 switch to the LA-5 and enoy one of the sweetest little hot rods in the game.

I have some LA-5 movies here:

g00b

Urchin · « **Reply #47 on:** January 12, 2005, 01:52:36 AM »

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Originally posted by BALSUR
You know to sit here and call everyone a dweeb for flying the LA7 is pure bs. Everyone one here flys whatever plane fits the situation. I can easily say anyone who flys a 190d9 or P51 above 10k are dweebs, but that not right, its picking the plane for the mission. So many times you have pilots vulching a field. If you want to get off the ground fast with the best firepower available then the LA7 is not a bad choice. So, don't be so quick to condemn the guy flying the LA7 because you feel your so skillful and its below you. Its your fault your in the 50+ eny value plane not his. BTW, I see more noob pilots in P51, P38 and Spitfire's than in LA7's

If you want to get off the ground with the fastest, best climbing, best accelerating, right up there in best turning plane with good firepower, the Lgay not just a good choice, it is the only choice. Every other non-perked plane has at least one weakness that can be taken advantage of by a skilled opponent in any plane (well hell, if you want to be honest, damn near all the perked ones do also).

That said, using anything else is rather like taking the Scout instead of the GayWP in CS... why limit yourself if you don't have to, right?

Played my younger cousin in NCAA 2005 today, it was kind of fun. He took one of the Oklahoma teams (2000 I believe), and just kept throwing 50 yard bombs down the field to his best reciever. I took Maryland, couldn't really compete. Ended up losing 35-28 after getting stopped on the 3 yd line on my last drive with the 4th quarter winding down.

I think a lot of folks have the 13 year old mentality of "Whatever it takes to win"... he has determined that the best way to "win" is to throw hail marys every down and hope to connect on 1 of 4 tries. I at least try to play the game "the way is was meant to be played", or at least the way I think it was.

Kind of interesting results on the stats at the end of the game though.. his QB ended up being 12 for 36 for 420 something yards.. kind of unreal the way his guys would go up and catch it in a triple team. Gamey? Sure. But it works. He'd do really 'well' in AH I think.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 12, 2005, 05:49:14 AM »

ur just as lame as the nme is
u complain about runners than u stalk an typh and follow it to the rwy into nme ack.

if there was a plane that outrun,turn dives rolls everything u would definitly fly it

its like little kids who can judge a car only on its top speed.

for me for instance

i fly the P38 since 1.03 since than they inluded all kinds of planes and new FM's

things got crowdy also

gang and run tactics are refined

but i still won't have to lower myself to the La 7

i don't understand why some dont take the la5 instead its still a rocket and runs fast on the deck but is more manouvrable than the 7.

i flown the la7 only once i still shame of that flight.

its a dweebs plane

Flyboy · « **Reply #49 on:** January 12, 2005, 05:53:44 AM »

i clearly remember killing batfinks hurricane with a 190...

Flyboy · « **Reply #50 on:** January 12, 2005, 05:54:32 AM »

jodgy, just take a P51d with 50% fuel

its pretty much a lala.

humble · « **Reply #51 on:** January 12, 2005, 08:10:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Blue Mako
Who cares what you fly. It's the pilot...

dedalos · « **Reply #52 on:** January 12, 2005, 08:21:59 AM »

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Originally posted by MANDO
Really? A Lala with 100% fuel can run for 35 minutes (using WEP for fuel consumption and x1 fuel mult).

at 380 mph sealevel you can run for 8 sectors. With fuel multiplyer set to 2 you have for 4 sectors. Do you need to run even more?

Yes if you catch him after take of. Check the times again, I think it is only 20 minutes. My point is LALAs can run if they want to but a lot of them will fight because they think they have the advantage. The king runners are the 190s cause they have the speed and you really cant fight in those things unless you know what you are doing.

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I just saw the 1X fuel mult. It is 2X in the MA

dedalos · « **Reply #53 on:** January 12, 2005, 08:44:46 AM »

Zazen, don't take this the wrong way but with your style of flying I don't think the plane you fly would make a difference.

Now for the rest, you seem to think that it is OK to bring 20 or 30 guys to vulch a field. You think it is OK to dive in from 15K vulch and then extend for 10K before comming back as long as you did not do it in an LA7. You think it is OK to go 5 on 1 when I am low and slow in a KI61. You think it is OK to make only HO passes as long you are not in a LA7 and as long you only extend 2K or 3K before the next HO. You give people big for landing kills in a A20 or MOSS (can you say HO HO HO?)

However, if I up an LA7 so can get out of the runway fast and come out and engage the 5 or 25 cons vulching or gangin a single friendly that makes me a dweeb.

Honestly, if you want to be assamed for flying a plane, go with the 190d9. Be assamed when you fly in a group of 20 without any red guys around. Be assamed when you land kills without having a single fight. Really, I think some people are just upset that their vulch streaks where messed up by an LA7

MANDO · « **Reply #54 on:** January 12, 2005, 10:11:50 AM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
The king runners are the 190s cause they have the speed and you really cant fight in those things unless you know what you are doing.

Whatever, all I see are Lalas and P51s running from my D9. The funny thing is that they comply when half a sector later my D9 run from them while 5k above them and 5k away. Sadly fuel is not infinite. Some crazy visionaries call it RTB. It is even funnier when these La7 runners score these running only missions as "attack" missions over'n over.

Zazen13 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 12, 2005, 10:17:00 AM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
Zazen, don't take this the wrong way but with your style of flying I don't think the plane you fly would make a difference.

WRONG! nice try though, come Rooks and fly with me sometime, you'll be suprised how I really fight, as opposed to the 'myth' of how I fight. The plane you fly always makes a difference, if it did not, why do 90% of the people fly only 5% of the planeset 90% of the time?...Think about it. No one's flying style is immune to their aircraft's charactersistics, not me, not anyone...I'll give you an example: In AW I flew the Fw190 almost exclusively in the latter years. But, in AH I do not fly it at all or the 109's, why? Because in AH Fw190 and 109's have no nose-low deflection view. Just by virtue of this fact my shot selection is severely curtailed and my effectiveness reduced. I am only as good as the plane I fly in this specific regard.

I would never contemplate flying a plane such as a Hurricane in the same manner as I would fly a Typhoon, you can't, it just doesn't work. So, one's flying style is largely dictated by the plane's unique performance characterisitcs, however the plane's unique performance characteristics are not changed by attempting to use a particular flying style, they are absolute and fixed. It is because of this there are dweeby planes like the LGay7 that remain dweeby no matter who flies them, they are just dweeby. However a dweeby pilot, presumably how you perceive me, cannot remain dweeby (with any measurable degree of effectiveness) in a plane that does not allow for whatever it is that that pilot does that defines 'dweeby' in your mind. Simple logic.

Zazen

dedalos · « **Reply #56 on:** January 12, 2005, 11:32:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13

Nop, I don't see you as a dweeb. Don't know why you think that. As far your style, again, I did not mean anything bad (you do have a style right?). I went of your descriptions of flying in your posts.

However, I do think there are a lot of dweebs in the game calling others dweebs. Most of them could not fight their way out of a paper bag. They fly in groups and they call a 5 on 1 fur balling. Some of them will fly a 'real' plane like a p40, a Moss, a F4U and cherie pick you while you are engaged with their 5 friends. When they land their cheries or HOs they get an . When the lala dweeb that killed 3 of the 5 has to run cause he has a pilot wound, no ammo, and his 5 minutes of fuel are almost out he gets called names and if he manages to take that plane home and lands, he gets called names again.

Now tell me how to kill with a flak from 4K out.

dedalos · « **Reply #57 on:** January 12, 2005, 11:35:51 AM »

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Originally posted by MANDO
Whatever, all I see are Lalas and P51s running from my D9. The funny thing is that they comply when half a sector later my D9 run from them while 5k above them and 5k away. Sadly fuel is not infinite. Some crazy visionaries call it RTB. It is even funnier when these La7 runners score these running only missions as "attack" missions over'n over.

Hey, I don;t mean to say that all 190s run. Maybe you don't. I was just stating that a 190 is better for the running job. I am kind of curius on how you know what they are scoring their missions as.

The bottom line is, why in the world would you ever run from a D9? I ignore them until they are low enough to avoid a 4 sector chase.

AWMac · « **Reply #58 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:04:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
Anybody have a website addy where they sell disguises real cheap?

Yeah try "www.SheepOfJOC.com"

MANDO · « **Reply #59 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:53:29 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
I am kind of curius on how you know what they are scoring their missions as.

Because once I kill them once and they reup I know pretty well who they are, you open the browser and it is really funny to see how these La7 running heros score the "dangerous" running missions.